I think one thing is that just the idea that like you're going to learn something. Like how much we in so many situations, like try to protect ourselves from learning something and how weird that is. It's not conducive to better problem solving. I have that like, always tell people like, always go to the party. You can always leave. If you just go, it's like, it always ends up being like, I'm really glad I went. Because the thing happened, that you couldn't like, you didn't know it's going to happen.

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