In countries which are very strong, or have been very strong, nd have a long history of domination one way or another, we are understandably rather wary of that. With regard to belongings, i think that that's a beautiful thing. I really don't see that as as a conflict. Where the trouble starts is when immigrant communities close up andand become more inward looking. That is when more nationalistic, religious, extremist views find a fertile ground to flourish. And it becomes much harder for us women over all, i think, when societies go backwards and when they tumble into authoritarianism, nationalism or extremism. So we have to be more conscious about that. If you define citizenship as

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