Is the Russian State Trying to Convince the Masses?

The Russian state is trying to stir up conflicts by simply getting like one of the things that they were trying to do, if I recall correctly. And even if you can get people who are already primed to follow a message, right, so it's not that you're convincing them of anything. The Chinese have basically giving up, given up on propaganda for the purposes of convincing the masses about anything. Instead they basically employ what he call it friction and flooding. You know, great firewall China and that kind of thing.