The idea of needing rest, the reason we need it is because we feel empty or there's a deficiency in some way. For me, golf is fun, but it wouldn't be rest per se. People think vacation is like, Hey, you know what? You need a vacation is what you need. And if you were to take Cody with a broken leg and three kids under the age of five and go on vacation right now, you're definitely coming back more tired than when you left.

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