What if the most loving thing you could do for your child today is protect their right to play?

In this landmark 650th episode of The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast, Ginny Yurich sits down with Heather Shumaker, author of the modern classic It’s OK Not to Share, to talk about why childhood no longer feels like childhood and how we can change that.

Together, Ginny and Heather paint a compelling vision of kids outside for hours, solving their own conflicts, learning impulse control while they wait for the truck or the swing, and discovering that deep, creative play (and not early academics) is what truly prepares them for life.

If you’ve ever felt the pressure to enroll in one more class, push early reading, force sharing at the park, or make everyone “be friends,” this conversation will feel like a deep exhale. Heather gives you concrete scripts (what to say instead of “be nice,” “share,” or “say you’re sorry”), shows why “play fighting” and chase games are often exactly what kids need, and shares the powerful toolbox behind her follow-up book It’s OK to Go Up the Slide and her middle-grade novel The Griffins of Castle Cary.

As we celebrate 650 episodes, Ginny invites you to join the mission: listen in, send this episode to a friend who’s worried they’re “behind” because their child just wants to play, and leave a podcast rating and review. Your share might be the nudge another parent needs to slow the schedule, protect those long, muddy hours outside, and finally believe: there will always be time for academics, but there won’t always be time for play.

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