The second thing that i want to recommend actually came when i went over to see karen cothwell's website. Right there on her home page is the instruction to be curious. And so this is where things get little messe in terms of the scholarship of teaching and learning, because how we espouse that we learn best is often in direct conflict from those things that will actually facilitate the deepest, most sustaining types of learning. I hope i can pass on sum slivers of this to anyone listening right now, to be curious, to learn out loud, to get messy, to fail,. To hold ourselves such that we are always in a position to be learning more, failing getting feedback