We're just seeing this opportunity rise for people that never thought they had that opportunity. And it goes across the whole spectrum of economic privilege. It's one of those things where what you're after is somebody who can do the job, someone who can use google to go figure out how to solve a problem if they don't now how to solve that problem. I remembering an interview for a bank a long time ago about something, as e j b land from the java days. They were literally asking me what the fourth method perimeter was on something. So there's like the end of the spectrum. But going to the other side, how do we build processeso or interview loops and and understand