David: I didn't have conviction when I started. Mitchell: It's a thing for people who aspire to have that level of conviction in their own opinion, of an idiosyncratic opinion That is like sort of the way to get apart from the crowd and have standout results. David: And then there was just these like weird indications, external indications, because internal is like, man, I really love this. He says he never thought he could make money at it for the first two years but now his business has taken off. "I still think solo podcasts are one widely misunderstood and two one probably the biggest underpriced"

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