Productivity as Emotional Avoidance

In this episode of Ambition 2.0, Amanda Goetz sits down with psychotherapist and Toxic Productivity author Israa Nasir to unpack why so many high-achieving women feel constantly behind, overwhelmed, and unable to rest—even when they’re doing “everything right.”

Israa explains how productivity often becomes a coping mechanism for shame, fear, and feeling “not good enough,” and why no system, planner, or habit hack can fix that. Together, they talk about the early warning signs of toxic productivity (including resentment and the phrase “I just need to get through next week”), how unhealed wounds show up at work through perfectionism and feedback sensitivity, and why rest isn’t a reward—it’s a requirement.

They also talk about how convenience culture and “main character energy” are quietly eroding community, why boundaries shouldn’t be rigid walls, and what it really takes to build a sustainable, values-aligned relationship with ambition.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why productivity is often emotional avoidance, not motivation
• The earliest signs your productivity has turned toxic
• How reparenting shows up in your career (feedback, perfectionism, taking up space)
• The 7 types of rest (and no, scrolling doesn’t count)
• Why convenience is costing us connection and how to build community again

00:00 Intro

04:17 When productivity becomes toxic

09:07 Reparenting at work

15:11 Boundaries 101

18:16 Hyper-optimizing “self-improvement”

26:21 Contentment vs complacency (and the “both/and” mindset)

28:06 The 7 types of rest

31:42 Convenience vs connection

38:28 Rapid-fire questions 

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