The Leadership Failure of Pastor Bergen

"What Patrick was actually doing is trying to manipulate other people into getting what he wanted," Garcia says. "I think it was a real leadership failure to not have broken out of that vacuum and have talked to other stakeholders like the hills and crossroads ... I don't know if Jim is willfully and intentionally ignorant or if Jim is confused perhaps or maybe I'm wrong, right? But in my opinion, that's the only thing that I can say."