How to Get Through the Challenges of a Startup

I like talking to people like you who have bootstrapped the business and are in sort of between that getting to that first million ARR. And there's some interesting dynamics at play when the company gets to that size and a whole different set of challenges. So I think what we're talking about here, I think that's relevant to everybody because you need to get through this period before you can do those other things. The challenges don't go away. It's just different types of problems.