Jwada Viv: Can you claim now a validation of it, a feeling of the all-rightness of it? Yeah. I think there are ways where things like the podcast are absolutely an expression of that. So many people then kind of bounce out. They imagine a kid outside them. Like, can we empathize with that aliveness and that intensity even in a little kid so we can empathize with it? And can we value it in our in ourselves way down deep? We value that impulse in that super deep layer inside us. It kind of like cherish it. In fact, bless it like a benediction like that desire is good.

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