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011: Persistence In The Face of Failure with Lori Harder

Midlife Conversations with Natalie Jill

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How to Start Your Day and End It

"I'm not a person who wakes up happy every day. I'm just not, it's you're not," she said. "That is your quote bigger than the problem." She then went on to talk about some of her other habits and how they help her get through the day.

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