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#2 Barry O'Reilly: Unlearning and creating culture change

Make Things That Matter

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The Importance of Taking Time to Learn

"I think we're articulating something a lot of people, it's kind of in the ether right now," he says. "If you're distracted all the time, if you're fried all the time from slack messages at 11 p.m. every night, never taking a vacation, or having any space to think your own thoughts, it's impossible to learn." He adds: "There's loads of little things that you're, that are moving, and the more of those that are coming at you ... You are getting into this firefighting mode!"

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