Where does your energy go? 

That’s the question therapist and author Kathleen Smith ponders with Steve Cuss as they discuss anxiety, people-pleasing, and playfulness. Their conversation covers the way people turn to relationships for comfort and the importance of recognizing our finite nature as humans. They talk about systems theory and how it shapes Smith’s therapy practice. 

Smith and Cuss discuss the ups and downs of gossip, the power of intergenerational connections, and the intention it takes to shift from overfunctioning to resting in God.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Kathleen Smith
• True to You: A Therapist’s Guide to Stop Pleasing Others and Start Being Yourself by Kathleen Smith
• Everything Isn’t Terrible: Conquer Your Insecurities, Interrupt Your Anxiety, and Finally Calm Down by Kathleen Smith
• The Anxious Overachiever
• Bowen Family Systems Theory

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