The reputation of academics is legendary I think somehow and it was funny like when I used to tell people on an airplane like oh, you know, what do you do? I study emotion they're like oh cool. What do you study? And I could say you know fear or shame or depression They'd be like oh, that's serious And then you know if I said awe or laughter they'd be like what you get paid to do that But in point of fact, I think one of the lessons we learned is awe Einstein said it too is like the the cradle of art science and human creativity It's fundamental,. you know, we needed that and now thankfully there's a whole network of

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