I'm a Patriot, and I'm Not Afraid to Speak Out.

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"i was under political assault the entire time i was there, and that was soreal," she says. "It was like being in the mddle of the stallion purges at different points." She had a focus on trying to manage this confrontation with russia 'to get ourselves off this track' The former diplomat is now calling for people standing up for democracy to push back against this.

Fiona Hill is the former Senior Director for Europe and Russia of the National Security Council under President Trump and a key witness in his first impeachment trial. She is Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution. In her latest book, There Is Nothing For You Here: Finding Opportunity in the Twenty-First Century, she describes her journey from the post-industrial north of England to the world of academia at Harvard and the corridors of power in Washington, D.C.

In this week’s conversation, Fiona Hill and Yascha Mounk discuss the resonance of populism for working class voters, remaining true to principle in the Trump administration, and the future of Great Power conflict.

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