How to Resolve a Phantom Limb Pain

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Many people who experience amputation of a limb will feel in a very genuine way that the limb is still present, even though when they look for the limb, it's not there. There are some famous experiments from the neurologist and his former colleague university of california san diego, who goes by his last name rama chandrin. And has done some beautiful experiments showing that people who have phantom limb pain can be very intrusive. The process of moving through grief adaptively involves maintaining the attachment, but uncoupling attachment from the space and time representation of that person, animal or thing that we had before.

This episode, I discuss grief and the challenges of processing losses of different kinds. I explain the biological mechanisms of grief, including how neural circuits for emotional and factual memory combine with those for love and attachment, to create feelings of absence and yearning. I discuss how grief is distinct from depression, yet why they can feel so similar. I also provide science-based tools to assist with the grieving process, including how to reframe and remap the relationship with those we have lost while still maintaining a strong emotional connection to them. I also explain the importance of having and building strong foundational psychological and biological states so that we can better cope with grief when it happens. Finally, I describe tools to adjust those states, including those for accessing sleep, managing stress and emotional swings. This episode is for those suffering from grief but also for everyone, given that we all experience grief at some point in our lives.

We recorded this episode before the recent mass shooting tragedies in the United States. While we hope the information in this episode will be of use to anyone suffering from grief of any kind and at any time, we are also careful to acknowledge that many people require additional support and resources. For that reason, we include mention of such resources and we generally hope people will access them if needed.

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Timestamps

(00:00:00) Grief & Bereavement

(00:04:02) Sponsors: AG1, LMNT

(00:08:35) Grief vs. Depression, Complicated Grief

(00:12:20) Stages of Grief, Individual Variation for Grieving

(00:16:05) Grief: Lack & Motivation, Dopamine

(00:23:15) Three Dimensions of Relationships

(00:29:52) Tool: Remapping Relationships

(00:37:15) Grief, Maintaining Emotional Closeness & Remapping

(00:44:40) Memories of Loved Ones & Remapping Attachments

(00:48:04) Yearning for Loved Ones: Memories vs. Reality, Episodic Memory

(00:51:40) Tools: Adaptively Processing Grief, Counterfactual Thinking, Phantom Limbs

(01:00:32) Tool: Remembering Emotional Connection & Processing Grief

(01:04:03) Memories, Hippocampal Trace Cells & Feeling An Absence

(01:10:14) Yearning & Oxytocin, Individualized Grief Cycles

(01:18:24) Tool: Complicated Grief & Adrenaline (Epinephrine)

(01:24:37) Sentimental Attachment to Objects

(01:26:13) Why do Some People Grieve More Quickly? Individual Attachment Capacity

(01:29:42) “Vagal Tone,” Heart Rate, Breathwork & Grief Recovery

(01:42:32) Complicated Grief & Cortisol Patterns

(01:48:50) Tool: Improving Sleep & Grieving

(01:54:28) Tools: Grief Processing & Adaptive Recovery

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