I

hope you are too. So switch gears a little. It is interesting to see what comes in, what goes out, what goes out, what comes in. We were in Prada and, you know, back in the day, Prada was everything to me. Like I saved my modeling, my, I saved my everything. Like I would like buy one piece or like had a great, gorgeous green jacket belted early 2000s. And, you know, Prada's back. Yeah.

You don't count Prada out ever.

You never count me with your back. I mean, it's Prada's back. I wish I would have kept all my bags. I know. It is interesting to see, you know, what comes in, what goes out. I've actually had a moment in the past to, you know, to follow up with sustainability and just like playing my part. When I had no money, all I shopped was vintage. I was Steinberg and Tolkien in London. I had my places in Italy. I had my places in Milan because again, I couldn't afford. Vintage is great. And I've kind of gone back to that. And it's- Vintage is just having a renaissance now. It's having a renaissance. I think because of that, I think, listen, Zara will always be Zara. You know, it's great. You can grab something fast fashion, but there is something about just having that real thing. Quality. That quality that, you know, and my mom, you know, she grew up in the Depression. So she always saved. So what other stories do you have in terms of like those moments that you're like, I can't, if I would have fallen on the wall, no one would believe that I was there. Oh God. There's so many, I can't even think of them. Give us your favorite. Well, you were with all the models. I mean, you were with Kate, Christy, Linda,

you know, Cindy, like that must have girls were incredible. I mean, one of my memorable moments was being backstage when Kevin Aucoin stopped me. And I mean, he was the best hugger in the world. And he said, sit down. And he started to tweeze my eyebrows. And I used to have very thick eyebrows. And he, he tweezed them to a nearly well, which years later I wanted to kill him. But the experience was like, oh yes, you know, just your hands on my face. I'm, I'm, I'm

in heaven. I just think it was that moment of like the waiting, the waiting. And then it was, it was, you get to, you got to see it. And I remember, you know, saving my money to get my magazines, you know, I'm from Kentucky in the middle. There wasn't, you know, whether we Vogue or Mademoiselle or. Wednesdays were magazine drop days. I knew that

to a teeth when I was the age of 10, 11. And my mom would, you know, she would purchase the magazines

for me. And we'd go through it, you know. And she just, it was so, it was such an interesting time. And it was so exciting.

Yeah, and that was great. I mean, there were moments when I was at CFDA, when Christmas time, we got all the members to design a little Santa Claus or Mrs. Claus outfit on a little hanger. And they became the centerpiece of the Christmas tree at the White House. Oh, wow. And I kill myself to this day that we never took pictures of every one of them before we sent them off. They all came to our office and one was more fantastic than the next. They're somewhere in the library of Congress somewhere. But, you know, then we got the whole CFD invited for one of the Christmas parties at the White House. This is the Clinton administration. You know, and I remember we got Hillary to be honorary chair of Fashion Target's Breast Cancer, working with Ralph Lauren, who designed the Target, Blue Target t-shirt. I remember that. And we launched that with her at the White House. You know, those moments where we were upstairs in the private quarters and able to go through the Lincoln bedroom and everything with Ralph and Ricky and Donna and Calvin and Oscar. And I remember standing on the portico outside where you look down at the Washington Monument and Ralph and Ricky Lauren are standing there and Ralph goes, I could get used to this. And I kept saying, oh, I'm going to save that for my book. You know, I mean, things, moments like that were really, really special.