There's a distinction between expressing anger in the work of reconciliation and expressing it with the intention to retaliate. You know, when it's going to be trade, the betrayers got to sit there. And really hear it. And that person's going to start to express. And that's how you hurt me. That's what great leaders do. They're able to take it. So it's a big deal. It's a big, big deal.

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