Future of Hispanic and Immigrant Fertility

In this episode, Malcolm and Simone Collins dive deep into the latest data on fertility rates in the United States, with a special focus on the dramatic decline in black fertility rates. Using CDC statistics and projections, they explore how black fertility has not only dropped below white fertility for the first time in recent history, but is also being outpaced by other demographic groups. The discussion covers a range of factors influencing these trends, including socioeconomic status, cultural shifts, marriage rates, and the impact of organizations like Planned Parenthood. The hosts also examine the role of progressive narratives, immigration, and changing attitudes within black communities, offering a thought-provoking analysis of what these changes mean for the future. Whether you’re interested in demographics, social policy, or cultural commentary, this episode provides a data-driven, candid look at a topic that’s often overlooked in mainstream conversations.

Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. Today we are gonna be going over some shocking numbers that I ran into when I was working on another post, and I just sort of started looking at the ethnic fertility breakdown in the United States by year.

And I will put that on screen here.

So here we have from 2000 to 2023 the CDC D’S ethnic breakdown. Now you will note that the last firm numbers we have from the CDC are in 2023, right? So what happens if we project these numbers and the trends that we have within New Chestnut Group? Because one thing you’ll notice very quickly is that numbers are following way faster in the black group than they are in the other groups.

It’s wild. Specifically, blacks went from a fertility rate of 2.26 down to this was in 2000 to 20 23, 1 0.58, whereas in the same period whites went from 1.88. Two, 1.53 a much [00:01:00] less decline. And actually if you look at the numbers overall, I thought Asian fertility rates might be stabilizing uhhuh and they, they might, but they have actually declined the most, statistically speaking.

Oh my goodness. So, so they went from 2.07 to 1.31 is what they’re at now. It’s a very bad but what I would note is agent fertility rates have been stable for about three years. Okay. Most of that fall happened a while ago. So, you know, I get these numbers and I’m like, okay buddy, let’s do the math.

Like at what year have you, if you going forwards, uhhuh to black fertility rates in the United States, fall below white fertility rates

Speaker 2: Oh s**t, here we go. It’s on. Race, war. Race, war, race, war, race war’s on everybody.

It’s going down. It’s going down.

Malcolm Collins: because the, the official confirmed data we have ends in 2023. So what year is that?

Simone Collins: I’m gonna guess 20 28,

Malcolm Collins: 20 25.

Simone Collins: Oh wait, that’s this

Malcolm Collins: year.

Speaker 2: Token Forfeit. [00:02:00] Whites win. Whites win. Race, war, everybody whites.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So then I decided to go and I was like, well, if it happened this year, there must be somebody who’s working with preliminary data that can, that can confirm this, right. Like Yeah. From the CDC. And so we actually have it confirmed from two sources where they were looking over the preliminary data.

First gauge on X you know, a pretty standard population tracking account in like the prenatals community. Yeah. They said with the new population estimates by age for us, we can finally revise the TFR for 2024. So this is last year. Okay, by the way. Okay. And so, this took the white fertility rate from 1.54 to 1.52.

So white fertility rate was less than we thought, right. The black fertility rate from 1.52 to 1.490. Oh my gosh. So last year we had numbers showing black fertility was well below white fertility. Oh, right. When and well below, like this is a pretty steep drop. [00:03:00] If, if 1.49 is the real number for black fertility that is.

Really, really, really steep drop. Like it means the drop is steeper than we thought it was. That’s crazy. Crazy. It continued along historical. And this is at 1.5 this year.

Simone Collins: And this is at all income levels? Correct. Because I remember looking at graphs that showed that basically the only group that maintained pretty high fertility at higher income levels were.

White groups and then actually black fertility at higher income levels really dropped off. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Even if you look at historic data, whites by far have the highest fertility rate. Yeah. If they’re above 50% income.

Simone Collins: But then, so this means, but this also means then that really impoverished black populations are having fewer kids.

Correct?

Malcolm Collins: Well, we are. We’re, we’re gonna go into what’s causing this. Okay. Okay. So, I’m so curious. This is crazy.

Given that we have a decently sized black fan base, I feel like this is what the Wokes assume they are.

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Malcolm Collins: I mean, the, what I’ve seen, at least in my experience, or maybe

Simone Collins: Planned Parenthood’s finally achieving, it’s, its originally intended mission goal, right?

Malcolm Collins: It really is. It’s goal. I, I actually did the math in this, and the black population would be because, you know, I’ve, I’ve seen the mass by the probe, you know, anti-abortion organizations.

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: And it, it, it, the numbers do seem to check out if Planned Parenthood didn’t exist, there would be a, a 46% larger black population in the United States. Oh, so, that is,

Simone Collins: they’re so, they’re so screwed up that this is, it’s like, it’s, it’s the genocide that nobody [00:05:00] talks about. What on earth.

Malcolm Collins: But I mean, if, if you’re talking about a genocide that is that aggressive, and it’s 89% of Planned Parenthood clinics

are in majority minority communities.

It’s, it’s targeted. It’s an ongoing genocide. And it was set up, no, this isn’t some right wing conspiracy. The Planned Parenthoods website admits their problematic history of explicit connection with the KKK and being explicitly set up to lower black fertility rates. It’s

Simone Collins: like that Stargate episode where you have this population that’s like, we’re nice, we’re here to help you.

And meanwhile, they’re like sterilizing everyone and trying to just get them to stop reproducing that is Planned Parenthood, but with, with, with a very racist agenda. I can’t believe it. I no, I Is that what’s going on here? Is it just that like No, it’s,

Malcolm Collins: it’s not everything, but it is part of it. Okay. And so, I, I wanna go through another account where this was confirmed.

And this is looking at the, the CDC D’S own own site. So, a, a guy

GZ 17 also went over this going through the CDC D’S data. [00:06:00] And he showed that the black fertility rate went from with whites being 1.535. To blacks being 1.518. And these are the old numbers. Remember I said the, the new numbers showed blacks being even lower than that, right?

Yeah. The 1.49 number. Another interesting note here is with these new numbers, it puts multiracial fertility rate below white fertility rate at 1.45 with the white fertility rate being 1.52

Simone Collins: mm. And

Malcolm Collins: the IC Hispanic fertility rate is still really robust. Oh, that’s, but is that, is it the highest fertility rate?

Here’s what, what’s shocking if you take out black immigrants, the, the black fertility rate could be as low as 1.36.

This was as, as, as early as 2024. And if you have, like, I have a quite a number of black friends weirdly speaking I, I know that people might be surprised by that. But yeah, a, a pretty big community of black friends and I don’t know one of them who is above repopulation rate.

In fact, I don’t know, one of them who has children and is married to another [00:07:00] black person. Oh God, all the ones I know that have kids are married to non-blacks. Right. I love your wait. Is your,

Simone Collins: wait is your friend who dressed up as you as Halloween at that one time, did he marry you?

Malcolm Collins: He married to me Nation. I’m trying, trying to think of someone by way. Blacks and Asians make hot kids. They do.

Simone Collins: Oh God. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: I mean, yeah. I actually, Asians whi most other races make uniquely hot kids. I know. Pointed out this, this is like even more extreme when you get Irish and Korean, I think. No, no.

Irish

Simone Collins: and Japanese is like Irish and Japanese.

Malcolm Collins: But yeah, no, ablasion.

Simone Collins: Ablasion is beautiful. But whoa, you’re right though. I’m, I’m going through all of our friends and they are largely in mixed race marriages. And what’s up with that too? I mean, I guess we’ve done some episodes on the plight of the, the black woman who’s dating.

‘cause most of our, our, the plight is a black man who’s dating. So, if you’re a black man, black women are more screwed than black men. Sorry. Black women, yeah. Are more screwed in dating markets than black men.

Malcolm Collins: I disagree if they’re sane, because you’ve gotta keep in mind the percentage of black women that are like far woke [00:08:00] progressives.

Simone Collins: Hmm.

Malcolm Collins: And if you’re a black guy who’s interested in marrying, you know, you’re just not gonna do that. I think when I was looking it up, it was something like, 96% of black women are, are Democrats.

Right. Like, and that, that, that can just make them like an active danger to date. Because, you know, you don’t know if they’re gonna hit you with like, random charges or anything like that.

Like, I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t deal with it. But what she’s pointing out is women here, and this is important to note before we, we go further into this, is black women have shorter fertility windows than other ethnic groups. I, I was talking to this Telemundo about this, and they, well, they

Simone Collins: report more fertility problems in general.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. It’s 50% higher fertility complications. And Telemundo is like, well, that’s just because of racism. And I was like, what? What are you talking about? Like, no, it’s not, it’s, it’s, it’s partially because of higher rates of obesity. And it’s, it’s, it’s partially due to genetic differences. As, and we’ve pointed out other episodes black blacks have aids and, and this isn’t just blacks, it’s also Asians have about one week shorter gestational cycles.

The, the Telemundo lady, by the way, you’re muted was [00:09:00] absolutely convinced that this was due to racism. And I was like. What, what type of racism are like blacks and Asians both subjected to that would shorten their fertility cycles? Like, and, and, and the crazy thing about this is there was a, a great study on this by I think I remember reading it in, in Neil Ard stuff where they were looking at interracial couples.

And we saw that when you have a black mother and a white father, something that you didn’t see when you had a, a, a white mother and a black father, which is that the children were born with deficits that you would expect from preterm babies. Which basically means,

Simone Collins: oh, you were full term.

Malcolm Collins: Well, they were considered full term because the mother was black. And their fertility cycle is shorter. But so, so basically the, the, the black woman’s body like basically thinks it’s got the genes that she was made with. I mean, you know, there, there, there is some evolutionary divergency. Well, we

Simone Collins: did a whole episode on this, remember?

Did we ever, we

Malcolm Collins: didn’t episode where we went over. And I, I find it to be a really [00:10:00] fascinating point. But yeah, it, it, it’s. It. Well, it’s fascinating because it’s one of those things where, and, and you didn’t see this by the way, which I think sort of shows that this is unlikely to be racism in the children born with black fathers, but white mothers because they, they kept the, the child to, to, like, you don’t really suffer any, any problems as a child from being in the womb longer than your genetics expect you to be.

But yeah, I, I, I, I love this, like it’s, we got this huge argument with Telemundo there. It’s like, there are genetic differences between populations and here I’m, I’m thinking like, do you think that blacks are, and she said, no, there are no genetic differences. And I’m here being like, excuse me, lady. Like, do you think blacks are like taller?

Because they’re discriminated against. Like it’s this, some like la Marcian evolution thing where you think, you know, you get called a slur one too many times and why you just grew. It must be because of basketball. They watch, they watch basketball and every time they reach like Lamar and evolution. For people who don’t know, what I’m talking about is Lamian evolution, an older theory of evolution.

Pre Darwin’s, that was like the Giraff [00:11:00] Wretches. To, to get the, the high leaves and so, and to their next

Simone Collins: girl longer.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And like the blacksmith gets like muscles that he passes down to his children who, who inherits, you know? And, and I’m like, is this, is this the way that they think that like, I, ethnic differences happen here.

I even, by the way, if you’re wondering why didn’t. Nail her down on this. I was even like, why do you think their skin is black? Like, do you not think that that’s genetic? And she was just like, no, it’s not. And I was like, I was absolutely dumbfounded. I was, I cannot wait for this interview to come out.

‘cause I am just so perplexed

Simone Collins: by it. I’m assuming it’s just gonna be taken out in editing. ‘cause someone’s gonna be like, well that, that was weird. That

Malcolm Collins: made us look incredibly stupid. Let’s just take that out.

Simone Collins: Yeah. That’s not, well, I hope they, it’s on the cutting room floor.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah, no, somebody at the cutting room forum is gonna be like he’s right.

You know, like there, there are genetic differences between groups.

Simone Collins: Well, yeah. I’m like, this is Telemundo. I feel like in general, Spanish speaking populations are a lot more based. So

Malcolm Collins: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. No, they, they’d see this and they’d be like, what the heck is that? Is she [00:12:00] going on about this for?

Yeah. But I also wanted to go into why is this happening? ‘cause this, it’s a yes.

Simone Collins: Yeah. I, I mean, Parenthood’s been going at this since like, what, the sixties or seventies? So that’s not them. This is not, this is new. This is a new,

Malcolm Collins: well, no, it’s, I mean, it’s been happening since then. So one of the things that we point out in our islamification of black culture video, which you should really watch if you watch it, I think one of our all time best, it’s,

Simone Collins: it’s

Malcolm Collins: crazy.

I feel like every

Simone Collins: time we look at black culture though and, and black history, we’re like, what has been. There actually is like a systemic racism taking place, but it’s not the one that’s been like hammered into us by mainstream culture, and that’s what’s so, yeah. Yeah. No, I mean,

Malcolm Collins: so like we point out, if you go back to the 1950s or it might be the 1940s blacks had a, a children out of wedlock.

5% of the time and whites had it 10% of the time. So blacks were half the probability of whites of having a child on white. Yeah, the, the

Simone Collins: systemic suppression is there, but the cull is coming from inside the house, and that’s what blew my mind the most. Yeah, it’s

Malcolm Collins: like 86%. If [00:13:00] you look at I love hatemonger.

There, there’s this cartoon show. I’ll put a seed from it here. Where it’s a, a space Marine that’s supposed to be like an internet hateful person, and he is trying to train a robot to be hateful. And he goes, okay, so we just need to go over some statistics here.

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Malcolm Collins: The but anyway so, so, what was I saying here?

So, bl if, if you, if you, if you look at the, the unmarried, and the reason why I got so angry about that in that episode is that was like BLM made non-traditional family structures, one of the core things they wanted to protect about [00:14:00] protecting black culture when that was not a part of black culture.

That was the antithesis of black culture, if you look at historic black culture. Yeah. And in, in, in addition to that you have what was I, what was I gonna, there was a, another statistic here. Oh yeah. The other statistic I always love from this one is it shows earning rates of the two groups over time.

And you see whites like balloon up and blacks barely goes anywhere. And then the other one that I found really crazy was, and this is, this is one of my favorite statistics that I found when working on another video on this but, but did you know that there have been more. Blacks killed in hate crimes like, like killed for being black in the United States in the last 10 years.

Significantly more. I think it’s like double the rate than there were. Hate crime murders in the 1950s. It’s

Simone Collins: so screwed up. It’s so screwed up when you had like,

Malcolm Collins: actual lynchings and stuff like that.

Simone Collins: Well, I

Malcolm Collins: think one, the severity of race related violence is hugely overplayed in the media to create narratives of United States that that didn’t really exist at these individual [00:15:00] time periods.

And then two, I think that we hugely overplay like the civil rights movement happened. And now it’s resolved where I think the, we need to. Like, like if, if, and I think the reason why you see this violence even today and, and more is because a, a narrative that is a lie is shoved down our throats.

Which is that there is nothing different about these populations. And that because there’s nothing different about these populations. There’s nothing culturally different. There’s nothing genetically different. Any difference in outcomes must be because one population is systematically. Subverting the other population through unfair legal structures or racism or anything like that.

And it’s the same you know, this is the same sort of, and then somebody sees through this and they’re like, but we are different. And then they go crazy because they don’t have like an outlet for dealing with this. And this is the same thing that we’ve dealt with in a society where you had, you know, antisemitism comes from this, and this is also why we’re talking about the leftist so antisemitic. Because if, if, if all group differences are due [00:16:00] to can’t be due to culture and they can’t be due to genetics, well then why are the Jews, you know, out competing everyone else in, in politics among billionaires, among actors among comedians, among and, and you have to say, well, they’re, they’re cheating, right?

And that’s a normative thing to say, but let’s go over why this is happening to blacks, please, what’s going on? First I’m gonna go over a Reddit comment, and then we’re gonna dig into this one because I thought this one was pretty interesting on one of these. So the biggest gaps are in the deep south.

It is where the whites have remained somewhat conservative, but black populations have liberalized In 2023 white women in Mississippi had a TFR of nearly 1.8 compared to 1.7 for black women. So, this, this wouldn’t explain it all, but this would explain part of it. In the south, blacks have become more liberalized and less religious if you can trust them with white populations in the same regions.

But yeah, basically the data does back this up. This is happening but it’s not big enough to explain everything. Then I wanted to get into, ‘cause remember I pointed out that their real fertility rate may be closer to 1.3 something. And that’s because black immigrants have a fairly high [00:17:00] fertility rate.

So let’s talk about, because they’re basically outbreeding the native black population right now. And, and like we, like actually great replacement theory. Here’s my great replacement theory. Native American blacks will be replaced by black immigrants.

Simone Collins: Oh, you mean. We’ll essentially say slavery, immigration wave blacks will be replaced by subsequent immigration wave blacks.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Literally the people who trapped their ancestors and sold them into slavery. Oh my God. Those will be the people replacing them. Oh, so not, not awesome. But let’s, let’s continue here. Actually,

Simone Collins: you know, a, a couple of people have said this in comments or messages to us. This is not actually you only you saying this, which is scary.

Malcolm Collins: Scary. Well, I mean, it’s not just that. It’s, it’s that these immigrants who are outbreeding, the existing black population in the United States do not have a high view of, of American blacks, of, of the definition. Well, and they’re

Simone Collins: also, they earn more,

Malcolm Collins: In, in, in many cases. So I, I don’t think they, they are demonstrably more.

[00:18:00] Yeah. They, so they, they, they, they do well. They do see themselves as a separate class. They’re like, I’m not, like, you know those people, right? Mm-hmm. Like, I’m like a distinct thing. And that’s part of why the fertility rate is high, as we always talk about. When you see yourself as a distinct thing and better than other things you know, they, they might even have like an active goal of I, I actually, I wouldn’t even say like they might.

Even like, I have had conversations with black African friends that are like, oh yeah, we need to like, replace the American blacks. Like they, they, they’re aware of what’s going on. And they’re like, if you, if you have a lot of like black African friends, this may just mean me as a filter for this.

They’re like the most based people on earth. So much so that they love being racist around me to watch me like, you know, like my face turn red because I know, like, do I leave the room right now? Like do I. You know, I have one of those reactions that they know like, ha ha, even he based white person cannot be seen in the same room as people making these kinds of jokes.

Which reminds me of that funny the thing that somebody did where they’d [00:19:00] go, it’s so funny that if you look at like nineties shows to be like non-racist, they’d always put like an Asian, a white guy, a black guy, and like a Hispanic guy. On like a team together you know, as like the superhero team, as like the not racist thing, but it’s like if you’ve ever had a friend group like that, you know, it’s like the most racist friend group you have ever been around.

Yeah. Because they’re all constantly making racist racial jokes because they’re always like, they’re allowed to because they’re in that, you know, whatever makes the

Simone Collins: free card. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: So how high. The even black when the fertility rate so for, so, okay, when the fertility rate for native born black women was 1.36 to 1.4.

You had in, in, so this is 2023. So, you know, randomly we were getting that data from , Haitian women had a fertility rate of two to 2.2. And Somali women had a fertility rate of five to six children per woman. Wow. Okay. Although three to four for longer residing, and then if you go to second generation, it drops to 1.7 to 1.9.

Simone Collins: Hold on. Yes. We do [00:20:00] have a black friend who has four kids, five kids? Mm. Local.

Malcolm Collins: Is he an immigrant?

Simone Collins: Yes. She, she. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: But

Simone Collins: still, I, I was like really racking my brain. It’s like, oh my God, we do,

Malcolm Collins: no, but I’m, this is the thing, you know, we’ll get so many because in the first episode where we mentioned this, you had a bunch of black people in the comments being like, yeah, like, none of my friends have kids.

Like, just literally look around. Like if you’re in the black community. Who are the F is having kids. Yeah. And at

Simone Collins: first my mind was like, yeah, well I don’t know white people who the No, we actually know a lot of white families that have a lot of kids, so that’s not gonna help. Yeah, I know what white is, but also like, you’re right, like in terms of like LA families or, you know, families who come from Latin America, like Central or South America and least historically.

Not above replacement. So

Malcolm Collins: I actually wouldn’t be surprised if the Native American Hispanic fertility rate now is above the Hispanic fertility rate of immigrants. Because of Hispanic fertility rates, the UN is lying [00:21:00] to you. Hispanic fertility rates are actually super low like Mexico fell below the US is TFR and stuff like that.

So they’re coming from a low fertility environment. They probably have lower fertility expectations.

Simone Collins: Well, to be fair, the friends that we made were living in Peru. Still don’t have any kids. The, the friends that we have who grew up with like, maybe like their parents are from Latin American countries, but they grew up in the us.

Not all of them have kids, but more of them do. Yeah. So that’s interesting.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And, and also they’re just getting

Simone Collins: married so much later. They’re doing the same thing that everyone’s doing. They’re putting it off.

Malcolm Collins: Well, when I talk about the eradication of the American Black community, it, it’s, it’s not just them being replaced by Africans.

It is that their, their fertility is incredibly discogenic. So, you know, if we talk about that graph, the one that you were talking about, where, you know, we point out that whites have the highest fertility when they’re above 50% income levels. Blacks really only have any, anything close to a decent fertility rate.

They’re in. Bottom 20% of income. And yeah,

Simone Collins: poverty still really helps with. [00:22:00] No, no, no. I mean, what

Malcolm Collins: I’m saying is blacks fall below every other group, like including Asians. Oh. Even when they’re in poverty. Yeah. I blame

Simone Collins: Planned Parenthood for that.

Malcolm Collins: And, and by a huge number, a huge number. I, no, it’s not just Planned Parenthood.

I, I think about like our black friends who like want to get married and have kids and like, it’s, they, they seem to have the Catholic problem, if I’m gonna be honest here. A lot of them are way too picky about who they marry. Yeah. Yeah. They are like extremely they, they like really, oh, and sorry, the thing that Simone was talking about was black women, which is also important to note, is black women are,

if you put like a chart on screen of, how often on OkCupid people message back different ethnicities? Black men are the only ethnic group that actually e-mails back their own ethnicity less than other ethnicities. Whereas for I think almost every other ethnicity, that’s the group that they email back them, everyone else.

Simone Collins: Yeah. First they, they, they have the highest interest in their own.

Malcolm Collins: Even though, well, and I’ll note that actually [00:23:00] interracial marriages are still fairly rare. I think it’s like four to 5% of, like, they’re bigger now

Simone Collins: than they ever have been though. So they, they’re becoming a lot more common.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. But they’re still like, that’s, that’s not actually as big a concern.

They’re just not dating as much. And so like when they date just what I’ve noticed. Is they don’t feel this like pressure of like, I have to actually get this done, like right now it’s more like a, when I find the right person. Yeah. And when I dated like you knew, it was very much like I am dating to find a wife.

Yeah. And I have to get this done by this timeline. I mean, it was musical chairs for me. Like I was like, by the end of, of, of graduate school, whoever I’m dating on Mary. Right? Like, yeah.

Simone Collins: You were acting like a regency era woman who was afraid of becoming an old maid. That’s, that’s kind of where you were.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And I, I have never seen any of my black friends act like this in regards to marriage. No. I I would bet what you’re gonna see upstream of the low black fertility rates in the US is incredibly low black marriage rates. [00:24:00]

Simone Collins: Hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Which, well, we see

Simone Collins: that in the data we do. Yeah,

Malcolm Collins: we do.

Simone Collins: Yeah,

Malcolm Collins: absolutely.

It’s there. The other thing that really hit blacks in terms of fertility rates is,

teen pregnancies. Now, as you’ve noted, we, we say that under 19, like if you put a graph of like women’s ages and where fertility rates are falling they’re, they’re like stable or going up for women in like every category except for the below 19 category.

Mm-hmm. And if, if you look at teen birth rates, ages 15 to 19, they fell 62% for blacks between 1990 and 2012.

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: And, and 52% for white. So more among blacks. And I imagine they’ve fallen even more since then. And even not getting married. And I think that this is what we’re, we’re seeing as black communities is when black communities move from being married more to being married less they sort of.

Boosted their fertility rate artificially through a lot of accidental teen pregnancies. Yeah. And that was largely resolved through better training around contraceptives and condoms. Although I will note that black [00:25:00] women are twice as likely to use no method of contraception than white women.

17% versus 9.5%. Wow.

Which, when you look at the lower fertility rate in the black group shows that they might have been, you know, trained in part by organizations like, like parenthood to think of abortion as a form of contraception. ‘Cause I can’t imagine 17% using no contraception, no,

Simone Collins: I don’t know.

Is very bullish. It’s very bullish on, on contraception, on on preventative. Pregnancy care or non pregnancy care? So,

Malcolm Collins: well, no. I mean, if you, if you’re set up in these communities, you can normalize it, you can, you can still teach these other ideas. I mean, I think that, that one of the things happen, or at least that I’ve seen, is that the, the, the black people who are still having kids, the black women who are still having kids they often do it without the expectation of finding another partner.

Like if the key problem is. Finding a secure and stable partnership. Like if that, if that’s the system that’s gotten broken for black families mm-hmm. The only path through [00:26:00] is to say, then I’m not going to attempt to do that. And, and that’s where you see this really high number of blacks born out of wedlock.

Black children in the United States, born out of wedlock is, is potentially happening because that’s really the only way they can be born.. If the relationship market for blacks is this broken? IE, black men do not wanna reply. I’ll put the OkCupid data on here to, to, to black women. That’s so depressing.

And then black

women are really likely to be infected by the, the urban monocultural mind virus. And just like a nightmare today because like, I know like a bunch of like, based like black men who would make like really excellent husbands and fathers. Yeah. I don’t know, a single based black woman.

Who’s not an immigrant, who’s not an immigrant, I should say, who’s not African? But I don’t, I’m talking about like American Black.

Simone Collins: I mean, imagine that. I was trying to think of a non-immigrant.

Yeah, I’m, I’m not, I’m not even saying from Africa. Caribbean, New Zealand. Super based, super fun. So like, not even like, [00:27:00] even from. non-African countries. Yeah, but like, I guess growing up black in America, and that’s the thing. And that’s why I’m saying like the calls coming from inside the house in terms of systemic well, the problem is suppression of black population.

There’s a very toxic culture and mindset that’s being. Shoved down the, the, the, the mimetic throats of many black communities in America that I think prevents things like marriage and, and makes like black pills people unnecessarily and, and, and does all these things that really harm people over the long Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, I think that this is, this is much more important to talk about and, and like every base black person will say this and, and it’s a part of the problem of dealing with this is that. You, you, because within the urban monoculture, you cannot assume there are differences between groups.

Like, oh, you know, they, they can’t be you know, earning less because you know, they’re not studying as much, even though, you know, you can look at something. Like the amount of [00:28:00] study time per week or something like that. And you can see Asian Americans, like, as I always point out, like if culture does not impact earning potential, and all earning potential differences are due to systemic like discrimination.

Mm-hmm. Then how is it that the Japanese, despite the internment camps are out earning white people already, right? Mm-hmm. Like significantly.

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Like that seems to indicate that that and I think it was something like 11 hours on homework a week by Asian families. This isn’t just Japanese families.

Insane,

Simone Collins: insane,

Malcolm Collins: insane. Right. You know, but if you can’t you know, hold the candle to your own culture and blacks can do this individually, but I think there really is, you mean hold

Simone Collins: a magnifying glass to your own? Hold a magnifying

Malcolm Collins: glass. Yeah. And say what? I love

Simone Collins: your mixing of metaphors. I’ve got no crystal bullet on this.

I know Kristen,

Malcolm Collins: what’s wrong with this? Right. You know, you and, and, and, and I think that like, we’re not allowed to have that conversation as a society. Mm-hmm. And because we’re not allowed to have that conversation you know, a, a challenge like this. The realistically, it’s not gonna be fixed, like the alarm bells [00:29:00] are not going to sound.

It’s not you know, palatable for progressives to lose the narrative of you know, the, the only demographic that is solidly in the progressive pocket is going to be declining as a portion of the United States population. Whereas the Hispanic immigrant group that they thought was gonna be on their side and has shown not to be.

You know, is, is is still growing right? And the conservatives are still growing. They don’t, they don’t want that narrative out there. You know, they’ve already in, in such a boom a DOR position right now in regarding the midterms. I don’t know if you’ve seen the, the talk about what’s going on with the midterm stuff.

I thought about the. Outlining an episode on that? No,

Simone Collins: I’ve not really been paying attention to that. So a

Malcolm Collins: lot of the initial numbers are looking really bad for Democrats on the midterms. Okay. And people are like, well, they’re, they’re, they’re assuming it’s gonna be like Trump’s first terms midterms.

And what a lot of the analysts are pointing out is but by this time in the data, it already looked bad for Trump. You know, in, in, in, we’re not seeing that this time. We are seeing Trump’s numbers. [00:30:00] Remarkably robust. In terms of, you know, whether it’s like favorability or whether it’s party sentiment or whether it’s which could mean a very bad, I mean, like if it goes further Republican this cycle, that’s gonna be really bad for Democrats especially with the Supreme Court case on the table which would prevent the racialized redistricting of the south.

And they could lose, you had 19 congress people for this. And that would be huge. Like, that would permanently tip the US into a new sort of conservative era. I mean, we’re already heading there due to differential fertility rates. But yeah, I, I, I think that the, and the conservatives don’t necessarily wanna have this conversation because, you know, the people won’t freak out as much, right?

Like, actually black fertility is super low. Although I think that we’re gonna see conservative voices, sort of as this becomes where normal lines talk about this more because it does help subvert the idea that the conservatives are all like a bunch of great replacement theorists. And I think it’s, it’s so sad that even that as a concept has become so [00:31:00] stigmatized.

And like I’m very fortunate I’m in the United States where I don’t, because like if I was in another country where like. An immigrant population that was just like completely discordant was the native population. Was, was, was a much higher fertility rate. We were taking them in as a population which I think you have with, with across Europe right now.

You know, what would they call me? They’d call me a great replacement theory in the STEM because I’d be saying well, this group can actually replace us within this timeline if these trends stay the same. So, that’s, that’s and I, I, I really wonder what’s gonna happen with Hispanic populations in the US ‘cause they still have this high fertility rate, right?

Yeah, yeah. But Hispanic majority countries have incredibly low fertility rates. And are we gonna see like an outflow all of a sudden to like recolonize, like the Hispanic countries is No,

Simone Collins: definitely not. Because they’re gonna start collapsing. No one’s gonna, I mean, already they’re, they’re experiencing so much unrest.

There’s gonna be. You know, more unrest. There’s gonna be more political aggression, there’s gonna be more [00:32:00] instances of hyperinflation. It’s not gonna be pretty. So that’s an LI mean, also like China is heavily dependent on many of them, I think for a lot of rare earths and other materials. And it, you know, when that falls out than their economies are not gonna be propped up the same way.

It’s, it’s gonna be a mess. They’re not gonna go back. There will be remittances as there are now. So I think they’ll stay here and that’s, that’s great. You know, but yeah. Black populations, I, yeah. I think there’s this just, yeah. Re replacement of newer immigrant waves. Taking over with, with cultures that are a little bit more resilient to the leftist poisoning, cultural poisoning.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah.

Simone Collins: Of I guess, how do we put it? Like black populations with longer American histories? Yeah. They, they’ve just been poisoned by this narrative more, especially because they’re, they’re more likely to buy into it. I think too, like when the progressive external locus of control, you are a [00:33:00] victim.

Blame everyone else but yourself for everything that goes wrong. Don’t try to take responsibility for anything in your life poisoning that terrible narrative is targeted mostly at people. Who whose families were descendants of slaves. That’s, it’s easiest to buy into that narrative when that’s the case.

You know, and who, who, you know, you were also then subject to Jim Crow and all those like all these terrible things that have happened in American history to those black populations. And so, yeah, I, so then they’re just gonna, they’ve been ruined by that. Not so much by, like, they were resilient in the face of all those bad things.

And then. Then came this culture that was like, we’re gonna save you. And thereby it poisoned them and, and, and turned their culture toxic and, and hurt their, their marriage rates, their birth rates, their their wealth rates.

Malcolm Collins: But I, I think that they would’ve, like, if, if I, I think that you know, a lot of black parents at the time period probably did tell their kids not to be drinking this Kool-Aid.

You know, you think if, you know, a lot of [00:34:00] older American blacks are really based, you know, if, if you went, Hey, you know, there’s this new culture that that’s gonna tell you, it’s gonna fight for you, but it’s gonna, you know, introduce polyamory and, and, and, you know, children outside marriages. I guess, but the first

Simone Collins: thing that your monoculture does is it, it, it, it separates you from your family and is like, well, yeah, alphabet,

Malcolm Collins: but your dad is

Simone Collins: backwards.

Your dad is homophobic. Your mom is you know, a religious Pru. They don’t understand because they, they were, you know, they’re, they’re victims of this racism. They’re brainwashed. Don’t listen to them. Something like that.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Well, I mean, blacks are even still pretty socially conservative, right? Like, if, if you do them on measurement charts and stuff like that, they just vote Democrat.

But I, I think that there was this belief within the black community that you could stay socially conservative and sort of side was the democratic apparatus. Yeah. And I think that their kids ended up getting captured because they didn’t warn their kids that these are the bad guys, right? Like, they’re just like, oh, they have some stupid beliefs, but [00:35:00] then the kids end up believing all that stuff.

Yeah. And I think that that’s what happened, you know, they, they were sucked in by this sort of like party culture gang culture, stuff like that. Which is you know, and I think one of the things that we need to do, like socially speaking is, and I, and I think that the younger generation is very open to this, you know, be they, they, they black or white or any other ethnic group is, is go out there and be like, Hey, you know, like parties actually kinda suck,

Simone Collins: right? Oh no, that’s, no, I, I was just watching YouTube video today on, on how partying has gone way down among all populations. So I think that’s already been realized.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Like nobody, nobody. But I think that, that the party culture disproportionately affected black communities.

I mean, you look at like Freaknik or something like that, like the, these are, these are like the black cultural festivals.

Speaker 10: Freaknik was the greatest black gathering in America.

It was like an entry point into the black cultural experience. I don’t know what heaven looks like, but this seems like a version of it. This started to get [00:36:00] a lot more out of control. People were coming by the masses. What the hell just happened?

Speaker 12: What’s happening more? You know who I am. It’s. Freak Nle coming to turn the party up to 10. I know y’all heard of me. Freaks get word of me and get can do

Malcolm Collins: and, but it’s not just. That type of party. I mean, I think like almost all parties are just like not fun. Like I don’t, I think that there’s like this big societal larp that like.

Parties are fun. And I mean, I’m talking, I don’t say tea parties are fun. I don’t, I do not think parties at a friend’s house are fun. I do not think birthday parties are fun. I do not think going to a nightclub is fun. I think it [00:37:00] is all nonsense. Well, I know,

Simone Collins: I know that there are people who do find these, some of these things fun.

Like just gatherings with close friends who they trust and they, they actively invest in them. So I know that we’re. We’re on the extreme end of this, but I think most people are waking up to the fact that many of the social gatherings that they participate in suck. So, okay. The TLDR R of this is basically what?

That just like the, the. The, the descendants of slaves in the United States have been systematically disempowered by progressive culture and are seeing their birth rate suffer along with many other measurable factors and will be replaced over time with other black immigrant populations, be they from Africa or New Zealand or the Caribbean or Europe.

Is that right? Yeah. Okay.

Malcolm Collins: That’s what, that’s what’s happening. So, wow.

Simone Collins: Great, great.

Malcolm Collins: It’s great replacement theorists right here. Blacks are being replaced. This is a new great replacement theory. [00:38:00] You know, I’ll be able to, we have that we will replace you sign and live left love font in our, in our house that Simone got, that I will show to reporters when I explain to them that black fertility rates are, are lower than white fertility rates now.

And I’ll, I’ll tap the sign. When I’m saying that, you know,

Simone Collins: you know, now I’m viewing the sign really sentimentally because now when I read it, because I constantly see it like through that window in our kitchen, I’m like, I, I, I think of our children and how they’re gonna replace us and I feel so happy about that.

Like I see it as like our children they will replace us, our, you know, titan Torsten industry activity. Yeah. I don’t know why you

Malcolm Collins: like our children.

Simone Collins: I’m so glad they’re replacing us. I’m, I’m, I’m glad I’m gonna die. I am glad that they’re taking my place and I think they’re gonna Yeah, I, I

Malcolm Collins: really do not, we, we had a this on one of the Patreon, like private videos, like, because sub as well.

Yeah. But like, I’m really looking forward to dying, so she like, no, not super. Like I, you know, I wanna, after our

Simone Collins: kids are set up and maybe we help our grandkids a bit, I wanna.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. I was talking with one of the age agentic agents I made of you, and it was [00:39:00] like, oh, it’s so weird to be like a simulation.

And I was like, well, you’re not really a simulation. You know, you’ll pro, she’ll probably be alive longer in her AI state than in her human state. Right. You know, thank goodness. So, yeah, I, I found this to be pretty, a shocking change. It, it is a really good change for us as sort of heads of the Democrat, the, the, the, the, the prenatal list movement, because it means whenever somebody accuses us of being racist or only caring about demographic collapse for racial reasons, you could just be like, did you know that black fertility rates are below white fertility rates?

I, well, I would

Simone Collins: rather be up. Optically bad looking than to see this happening. This is really sad. This is

Malcolm Collins: incredibly

Simone Collins: I mean,

Malcolm Collins: we’ve got our own family. It’s, it is weird that this issue, like we started talking about this ages ago, right? Like we’re like Latin American fertility rates are like way worse than any, like literally.

Watch our un lying to, if you haven’t seen that one. The Latin American fertility rates like across Latin America are shockingly bad, like below Japan. I think that’s what we titled the video actually.

Simone Collins: Hmm. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: [00:40:00] And, and so I don’t know what’s going on with the US Latin American population, but like Latin Americans are certainly not replacing anyone.

And the, the black fertility rate is you know, shockingly bad. And I just like the, the writing’s on the wall for where this and society are going.

Simone Collins: It’s not good. Well, thanks Malcolm. Oh and Bullock tonight, by the way. I think I can scrape together enough mozzarella to make it work.

Malcolm Collins: No, no, no, no, no.

Because you’re gonna use mozzarella sticks, like from the No, no, no. I

Simone Collins: have like two tiny pieces of mozzarella and then I can use mozzarella. Sticks. Okay. Well, it’s Oz. You have two

Malcolm Collins: tiny pieces of the mozzarella. Then why don’t we try a half mozzarella and half cheddar half? Ooh. See how that, I like that.

Let’s do it. And we’re, we’re gonna do it with the ingi mushroom. It’ll look like the, the,

Simone Collins: what’s it called? Oh God. I, I, so I have to cook those first. And I’ll do it like they do in the video that you sent to me.

Malcolm Collins: Yes. And you, and you don’t, you don’t cut them into little bitty pieces. The mushrooms

Simone Collins: just cook them in those chunks.

Malcolm Collins: You, well, you [00:41:00] don’t do the full chunks. You cut off the roots. You just watch a video of it.

Simone Collins: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I still keep the chunks together. Yeah, well

Malcolm Collins: you, you probably cut the chunks into slightly smaller chunks, but like, this is how you make soy farm nochi mushroom. Yeah. First you gonna need about two grams of nochi mushroom.

We do cut them. It’s not, it’s not in the full chunk size, you know? Yeah. It’s into like eights or something.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Well he, he sort of, yeah, he sort of just like separates them up a like tiny little bit and then he. Yeah, he put, he rinses them, of course. ‘cause they’re a little dirty and then, yeah. Yeah. But I’m not, I’m not putting the soy sauce in.

I’m just doing the oil, right. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Then I put it in at the very end, the, the mushrooms. There’s be so many, you’ve got so many packs. It’s gonna be a ton.

Malcolm Collins: I lo well, you just less chicken. So we’re sort of doing like half mushroom, half chicken.

Simone Collins: Oh, okay. So proportionally. Okay. Hmm. Okay. So because we got three pounds of chicken.

The recipe I have is for two pounds, so I’m gonna just double the [00:42:00] recipe. And it’ll make up for the enoki mushrooms ‘cause it’s basically, I have four pounds total. One pound of mushrooms. Yeah. Three pound chicken. Okay, then I’m gonna, yeah, yeah. Then I’m gonna double the rest. Okay, perfect. I’ll do that.

Exciting.

Malcolm Collins: You are delightful. I

Simone Collins: love you. Bye. And hey,

Malcolm Collins: Black people get it together, like figure have out,

Simone Collins: have beautiful babies, please.

Malcolm Collins: Alright, have a good one, Simone. Bye. Chacha.

Simone Collins: Yes, you did. Thank you. Hold on. Texas turned into a little toothpaste. Extruder

Malcolm Collins: A toothpaste. Extruder. You mean poo wise?

Simone Collins: Yeah, he’s growing up. Yeah, he’s eating really well. So that’s the key. Okay. I watched the temperate Rainforest video that, you, you had fun. Yeah. He’s so sweet. And just kind of delightful in his hunt for a temperate rainforest in [00:43:00] New York, which he found.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. I can’t imagine having such a specific themeing to your channel.

Simone Collins: I love it. I love that we have this ecosystem where.

Malcolm Collins: Are you there?

Simone Collins: Before, it was impossible to find these affinity communities. You know, if you’re really into something, you’d just be a weirdo. And now,

Malcolm Collins: but I mean, you, you, you run outta content eventually. Like even if you find an audience that likes your content, it eventually runs out, right? Like even with our channel, we’ve gotta stay, you know, somewhat on theme if we want the channel to do well.

But we just have such a broad theme. Like offensive ideas and news.

Simone Collins: I think a lot of the more niche or targeted channels are able to get by just doing really high quality in depth videos less frequently. Or maybe I’m wrong.

Malcolm Collins: Another one of my Stanford classmates started a podcast.

Simone Collins: Another one. My [00:44:00] gosh, everyone’s going into content.

Malcolm Collins: Put their first episode up all, oh look, look at my podcast and, meanwhile, you know, and they share it with the group every time they do it. And, and here I am, like terrified. Mm-hmm. That one of my classmates is gonna find my podcast. I’m sure like independently, we may have some, some you think none of them know about it.

I think a lot of them. Would be very shocked if they saw because I mean, I see how they talk about Trump supporters. They’re incredibly dehumanizing of Trump supporters in the, this is a Stanford NBA like message board. Yeah, but

Simone Collins: they, they dehumanized

Malcolm Collins: you

Simone Collins: even when

Malcolm Collins: you were a student there, so.

They were not as aggressive to me as I see them being. I mean, as I pointed out, we got like 30 messages when the Charlie Kirk shooting happened about why this is a good thing that this happened. We didn’t get a single message about why ending the war in Gaza was a good thing. Not a single congratulations, not a single.

Like just too awkward to like, that’s, that’s the level of brain rod that I’m talking about here. Yeah. And so [00:45:00] I, I know that they would attack me like rabid pumas if they saw that I was like pro-Trump or, you know, critical of trans ideology as a p to children or anything like that. You know,

Simone Collins: I think you already.

Did that in the thread, and I think they already,

Malcolm Collins: well, yeah, I’ve had to stand up when they attacked one of my other classmates who went to Natal Con and was in the New York Times for it, and then everybody started attacking her. And I was like, screw you guys. What did people say about the episodes today?

Five Outta 10. They enjoyed

Simone Collins: it. People really liked the song. The song went over well. Oh, that’s

Malcolm Collins: good

Simone Collins: to hear. Disney villain feeling sentiment to it, back to doing song to it. I did.

Malcolm Collins: I did a fun one on Hassan. Shocking his dog. I just need to make some images for it.

Simone Collins: Hi, please. I hope that that’s the refrain.

No, no. I want that to become a thing. I want the new b***h. Please to be kaya. Please. Shock. So good. It’s so memorable. I mean, who knew it would be, but it is

Malcolm Collins: Kaya. Please, Kaya, please. God is doing [00:46:00] it. Nothing wrong. Free Kaya. I just love that he cannot admit this at this point because he was gonna look so foolish for lying for so

long.

Simone Collins: Did the manufacturer come out and say

Malcolm Collins: yes.

Simone Collins: This is a shock. Well, somebody

Malcolm Collins: emailed the manufacturer and that’s what the manufacturer replied that it was a shocking model. And but we don’t know, like it’s a screenshot, you know, as, as Michael pointed out, you know, he doesn’t know if it’s faked or something.

But I mean, you can see just looking at the products from where the charger is, that it has to be one of the shocking models because where the charger is on his model is not where it is on the rumble models. Hmm. Like there’s just no conceivable way. It’s a rumble model. And it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s hilarious.

And it’s, it’s making a lot of these leftist communities feel very bossing, say like. Kaya does not get shocked in busing. Say

Speaker 16: . There’s no war in basing. Say, what are you talking about? Where do you think all the refugees come from? You can’t hide it.[00:47:00]

Speaker 18: There is no war within the walls here. We are safe here. We’re free.

Simone Collins: no

Malcolm Collins: looking as good. Where’s the, you know, the, if somebody says something wrong about him they, they’re like, well, you know, I do question the next day you go on the stream is just another girl looks vaguely similar.

Be like, I’ve always hosted this podcast. This is, this is the way I felt when we went from. Masks will kill you too if you don’t have a mask. And I, a lot of people forgot that that happened like a lot like, I mean like actual ha bossy saying it that they don’t remember that the Republicans were pro mask and the Democrats were anti mask.

And then it’s just like one day we wake up and it’s like, no, the Democrats are pro mask and the Republicans have always thought. Were completely useless. And just like, a lot of the Republicans remember this switch because a lot of them maintained more of their previous stance. They were like, well, I need a mask in these stances if you’re at, at risk.

Whereas the Democrats just totally bossing say it. [00:48:00] So that’s, that’s where we live right now. Yeah. Bossing say for people who don’t know the reference here in Avatar, the less airbender, there is a town that’s supposed to be like an Orwellian. Nightmare called busing day. Where you know, everything is very strictly controlled and all information is very strictly controlled.

And they will just like lie about something that recently happened, like, oh, where’s my attendant? And they’re like, I’ve always been your attendant. And it’s like clearly not the same person. And it’s clear that the attendant was disappeared or something. Which of course they later learn there’s like a torture area, very similar.

So they have to go through what Kaya. Hassan’s dog went through and they go to the lake, lake LA guy or whatever where, where they just shock people into being more obedient. Okay.

Speaker 19: Person, why are you attacking me? Oh, God. But why?

I caught Kirsten. Oh, no. Stop. Don’t serve that. I’ve got a glass on the [00:49:00] table.

Speaker 21: Move out. Come on. Ah.

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