In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich interview Fidelma Butler, Chief People Officer at Couchbase, a NoSQL cloud database platform company. They talk about how to build effective L&D programs by defining clear leadership standards, focusing resources on senior leaders, and integrating learning into daily work instead of traditional training sessions.

Fidelma emphasizes that L&D needs to be agile, continuously evolving, and solve actual business problems rather than existing as a separate "nice-to-have" function.

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Fidelma: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fidelmabutler/

Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/

Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/

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LINK/S:

Couchbase:

https://www.couchbase.com/

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:39) The L&D Challenge at Scale

(01:19) Tailoring L&D to Your Organization

(03:00) Defining Good Leadership

(06:00) Creating Leadership Language and Framework

(08:00) Why L&D Struggles - Making Squishy Things Tangible

(10:00) Meeting People Where They Are

(12:00) Optimizing L&D for Top Performers

(16:32) Sponsor: Planful | Metaview

(19:30) Engagement Surveys Done Right

(25:00) When Surveys Conflict with Leadership Vision

(28:00) Leaders Teaching Leaders

(31:30) Coaching Strategy and Deployment

(35:30) The Future of L&D Roles

(39:30) Getting Career Development Wrong

(42:30) The Promotion Obsession Problem

(46:00) Wrap

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