I was a radio amateur from junior high school to high school and I was building my own equipment while going to high school in Falmouth. And at MIT, I was a nerd and I fit in just fine. So it's actually been a rather remarkable transformation from nerdhood to today. But part of that though is I can talk to engineers. I have no problem bridging that gap because I am an engineer. To me design is actually taking what we know about technology, but we know about the way the world is configured and human behavior.