There's a difference between sobriety culture and mental illness culture. In the substance abuse culture, the person is generally viewed as the agent of the problem. And we tend to hold people a a little less accountable for biochemical processes. Yes, there's, there's a big clash there. Maybe that's the reason why the 12 step movement has never taken off a with he mental health? Ah, it's almost more like a cancer survival group than it is like an a group. It's something that i really want to work on.