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Zach Pogrob: The Secret to Going Viral, The Power of Obsession, Living a Creative Life

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I'm Just Going to Keep Showing Up

I think for me personally, where that started from was like growing up, I was super competitive with my older brother. So literally the first 15 years of my life, I would lose against him every single time we would compete over everything. Like you have so many losses and you keep coming. It's like you start to identify your character with, I don't even care about wins and losses. I'm just showing up. You can see it in someone pretty quickly too. Yeah,. I definitely see it in you. I see it with a lot of people are friend Danny Miranda.Yeah, it's something people just have. No, I agree with that as well. Because I'm

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