There are there are people for a lot of different backgrounds there other people from cults there. So it was good and bad in the respect that we'd often share like our war stories You know of our trauma, which is just a cycling of trauma But again, that feels super familiar and it feels comforting so that's why I'm super careful too about even the podcast I do because I don't want to just sit around and talk about horrible shitlike I want to like bring education and inspiration.

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