Steph: I loved what you said about having a beginner's mind. In your example, I've not been able to learn to surf because your ego is in the way. Ben: Just because you think you're above them doesn't mean you can skip them. Steph: You will absolutely realize your skipping steps if you don't. Oh, this has been so fantastic. What are you working on right now? Do you have a big trip coming up? Like, what's your next chapter?
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