I think people are so afraid to face reality that they don't look, right? They still look. That's more in line with what I mean. Once we get on that treadmill, we don't want to see reality any other way. It's like the only way to survive is to avoid. There's enough things we can distract ourselves with. And I'm not even talking social media and all that. But sometimes we're in survival mode," he says.

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