I was recently reading Jay Krishna Murthy who and one lesson that really came out on top was he mentioned something about real learning. He said that real learning is not really a mere cultivation of memory or the accumulation of knowledge. It is the capacity to think clearly and sanely without illusions without any prior beliefs and ideals right? So you have been a learner over the past many years think a decision maker we've talked about that right but take us through your journey of learning yourself and the process of deep thinking which is actually so much required in the kind of work that we all do as decision makers. Okay, that's a great question and it's deep question. Yes, sure. And