Speaker 2
I mean, even, even the, the most freakish, a freakish look at Elliot Kimchoget in, in, in Boston or
Speaker 1
like in those couple years ago, when you got the ear, your, yeah,
Speaker 2
it's like even those guys and he doesn't race much, but he's the master, the marathon. And even there, you know, he almost got Boston, he almost got beat by a couple of Americans. So it's, it, it happens. Right.
Speaker 1
When you at the, at the world class level, when you see someone rolling sevens every single time at the gate,
Speaker 1
like, Hmm, that's hard to do. That's near impossible to do because it's, it, it really is. I just call it fake tits because it's like, I know what I'm looking at. It's okay. But you also have to remind it is fantasy. Right? Cause it's just even remember, even in the senior year that Ellen had a 2007, there were bomb races in there, bombs, like stinkers, because he's human, because that's what happens. Yes.
Speaker 2
Exactly. It's like even the best of the best. They are human and stuff happens, you know? So it's, it's, it's like you've got to have some reality on here. Yeah.
Speaker 1
So that's the thing too is like it's so important to remind ourselves that these are humans, people and not robots. Right? It's why periodization matters. It's why, you know, pointing people towards a certain zenith matters because it's not really just physical. We talk a lot about the trainer side, the physical side, oh, what's going on physically metabolically, what have you, but it's also the mental. It's also the engagement. It's also the, you know, what I call the counselor side, knowing like how long can they stay on? And that, you know, was like one of the aspects of a shalet. Like maybe, you know, she definitely earned and worked hard for everything she got in her life, but in her career, but also too, her mentality was Kobe Bryant ask, different, different, never, I've never seen, I think in the world of running, I've never seen that, that type of mentality. Male or female? It's just, it was different. Yeah.
Speaker 2
I mean, and that's, that's part of the thing that I think often we miss here is that for most people, if you told me to go mimic Kobe Bryant and you and I are driven, like we've trained a lot, if you get told me and you to go mimic Kobe Bryant and do his thing, physically, we might be able to handle the stuff, but mentally, like that's not how we're wired, even if we're dedicated to do things. Like it would, the mental fatigue would get us over time because like we're not wired in that way to do that. And we often acknowledge this from the physical side. Oh, I don't have the capabilities to run a hundred miles a week like this or to handle 40 by 400 at X. Some people don't have that, but often we don't acknowledge that we think that all mental abilities are like, you know, completely trainable. And that's, there's, that's not true. Like some people, and we know this from the neurochemistry of it, like some people are wired with like, high dopamine or receptors that like light up other people are more serotonin, and dominant and content and all of that stuff, there's biology and neurochemistry behind this. And the certain people, like they're wired like Kobe Bryant and they can handle that stuff. Certain people can't. Yeah, it's 100%.