I don't think I'm proud of those years the way that I worked. Do you mean, am I proud of the way we got to? Yeah, maybe sure. But I don't like that that was the route and I certainly wouldn't wish that on anyone else. That's a sickness that infects our culture. So yeah, I'm not saying this a perfect way. It's a messed up system. But that's my experience and how I feel about it at the end of it.

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