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#232: How to be OK When Life Is Hard

Man Alive

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How to Move Past the Pane?

"We realized that were teaching our kids how to be in a relationship. And so we took that seriously," he says. "I can be as annoying as hell to live with, right? ... But i'm neat and organized and i want things a certain way." The couple has three children; no one of them came from another woman.

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