I'm Not Gonna Go and Tell Them That They Shouldn't Stop Me

I just find on the utilitarian principle it's difficult to suggest that the pain that somebody would have to go through in uprooting their life and moving to the city is in any way worse than the pain that the animals who they're currently eating are experiencing. I think you know maybe in some future world when sort of people people in Europe or North America or wherever are not causing more suffering to animals than traditional hunter-gatherers are doing then we might think about having a discussion with them. It's still wrong for those people to eat meat but maybe we shouldn't be focusing our concerns there, he says.