Kenji and Deb have history with meatloaf that goes way, way back, to summer camp in the 80s. It was not love at first taste, but Deb has a moment of clarity and achieves meatloaf enlightenment. Kenji and Deb chew over “meat batter”, how many Meat Loaf references in one podcast episode constitutes audio malpractice, and if parents who send their teenage children to the store for one ingredient are monsters. 

Recipes Mentioned:

• Deb’s Turkey Meatloaf for Skeptics (from Smitten Kitchen Keepers) 
• Kenji’s Classic Meatloaf (excerpted from The Food Lab, courtesy of Serious Eats)