have heard of that at a distance i don't know what that means stuff like for humans like does that mean we're supposed to go around and kill all the heights no

there was a whole reason that i was mentioning sapolsky and now it just disappeared it's okay it's in the past we were

talking about blending like modern like modern accomplishments with these ancient accomplishments like so like we have oh yeah

that was it yeah so while he was while he was out there in tanzania that was one of the questions that i asked him on the podcast was like what can the ancestral you know societies that you were living with learn from you and what can you learn from them and is there one side that could be teaching more or is it kind of pretty much on the down the middle and that was like his response was pretty much what you'd think like they're they kind of have a lot more their fundamentals are kind of more sound in some ways where they're like connecting to family and nature and yeah you know they're living in cycles of of the sun and the moon and there's like their relationship to nature is very strong yes and then the modern person who's kind of like an alien in a way like it's almost like they're coming on a spaceship for sure from the future a thousand years in the future and they're like here i have penicillin yeah and i have you know these different types of medicines and things that it can actually be super supportive where you might have actually died or lost your child in pregnancy but because i have these gifts from the future i can bestow them upon you so i think it's definitely both for sure. But you, I think you really need both. And if you get too lost in the sauce of modernity and tech and you, I think I would be very worried about moving into, you know, a high rise inside of a smart city and driving a smart car and being kind of just like, my god and i just you know and i and i take the elevator instead of using my legs and i take the escalator instead of using my legs and eventually we'll just be able to kind of lay my body in a bed and i'll just get my body will just get moved around from place to place and fed and i'll have a catheter and i'll have like a whole digital experience and i'll wear goggles and like that's that's obviously no one would actually like that but we're like as we're moving closer into that place where i can you know with my phone i can order food and i can make money and i can do all the different things and i just sit here inside my domesticated space and i can get all the resources to circulate through me and then i kind of slowly become you know atrophied i don't feel good yeah

i don't feel good anymore i really

want to chop wood and like get a fish and yeah actually you know have sex with a person yeah

hopefully a woman right whatever 2024

baby 25

25 um this whole thing about this is where i think bitcoin is a life oh shit it's not 24

anymore it's 25 what is time

what is time time since jesus baby um this is where i think the bitcoin life philosophy i mean for me i'm trying to walk that middle path where it's like i'm using technology to liberate me to not be on my computer all day. Right. I'm using Bitcoin education about Bitcoin, building businesses online to allow me to get the most juice for the squeeze as I'm working. Right. We use it as a lever. Using it as a labor amplifier. Exactly. But then what do I do with all that newfound time and freedom is like I try to biohack, be in nature, you know, take care of myself more of the ancient wisdom stuff, meditation. And so, yeah, that is the challenge of our, our age basically. Right. It's where in, I don't know what it is. It's social media, digital communication, peer to peer communication, like all this ancient wisdom is kind of bubbling up to the surface again and we're also kind of learning that oh wait these tools that have liberated us and connected us in so many different ways art can also enslave us or harm us and all these other things we have to tilt the the arc of human history kind of back towards the traditional roots to some extent

it's just gonna be like cycles in the in the you know the stock market or any of that things go up yeah to complexity it's overly complex it seems really amazing oh my god it's shiny and fancy and new and then it all falls apart and goes back to the earth yes and then we rebuild again and this is evolution and this is markets and this is health and this is you know this is just the way it goes and so there will be a reinsurgence which i think it's happening right now where god becomes kind of sexy and the concept of spirit is something you can say and not be like you are a complete asshole i can't believe you just did spirit on a podcast but a lot of people are like oh finally someone's talking about spirit i knew there was something rattling around in here for a long time you know but but that's something excessive scientism and excessive dualism and all of that starts to i think strip away some of the like the nature of of people yeah and uh i predict there will probably it's i think it's happening right now but i think like a new reinsurgence now that we're thinking that oh my god technology's taking over it's gonna now it's exponentially hockey stick we're just gonna become you know bionic everything yeah i think there'll probably be another one where people like oh my god i just want to like sing in a choir i want to take a walk in a real park you know i want to touch a woman yes you know and i want to be i want to like, I just want the IRL. That's all I can. I want to get my phone and my goggles off my face. Like I don't, I just, no more.

Yeah. No, and I think my, that's my hypothesis is that the technology, well, let's just go with AI specifically. It's going to automate or upend a lot of these white collar jobs, right? You know, accountants. Yeah. Consultants. Investment bank. You know blah blah blah even the creative

class doesn't have to just be one of those electricians are the next millionaires that's what i was gonna say is like if you were a real man yeah like or a woman or a masseuse or anything that involves a human connection or a talk therapist or something that's like i like you have a problem i have a solution in the physical plane yes and you'd be like damn like you are just it's like charge whatever you want right everybody left those jobs because they weren't sexy 20 years ago exactly now you need to call a plumber and i mentioned this in the last podcast i just called a plumber for my place uh in in uh bend oregon and i'm not there and i'm so i'm essentially like a hostage to whatever he says you know he's like yep it's ended up being like 2500 bucks for him to plumb my plumb my thing and i'm like yeah like whatever yeah

like i got a choice man property manager yeah and

i was and i'm talking to him he's like bro you don't understand i gotta go in like i'm gonna get like shit on me i gotta put on like a suit so i don't get shit on me so i gotta charge an extra 500 bucks and it's just like you can charge whatever you want because i don't know how to do any of that so you can pick your price captain

audience premium yeah you probably shouldn't say that on a podcast man all your service providers are gonna fleece you now it's true though um i think being

a man you know and i think like like like that's a job that feels inherently like traditionally masculine i think there there is and will be a reinsurgence of women being attracted to um like a traditional man yeah and just culturally it's like whoa like something broke in your house and you like could fix it yeah like with your this mind and your body yeah like no this is one domain

where i feel quite emasculated like i'm not so handy and um i think there's something there's something pretty no i admire it a lot i wish i maybe i can learn when

you're around it because it's a lot of people are not around i'm not even around it that much but when i'm around it and i'm around like a traditional man that can do like a carpenter or something like that just anything happening in the house there's like oh yeah if i said i got my tools in the truck they're just cutting wood yeah you know it's it's like is there something very magnetic about that to me it's

awesome yeah i've been the i've done a i've built furniture like in kind of a carpentry capacity but i've always had someone leading the charge like i don't know how to do all the design i can just do what i'm told

and then that person gets the because i i did i remodeled a house because i was like young and you know just didn't have a lot of money to be spending on having someone else do it so i like put in new floors and you know it didn't do like extensive stuff but i like learned how to do the stuff about a house when i was like 25 or 26 or something and it was kind of like a hoarder was there it was all beat up it was like not in a good good condition and that was one of the things that i got to experience with that that an artist gets to experience or you know a carpenter or anything of the sort where you get to step away from whatever it is you did like i just like if you put the floors in this house every time you walk into this room there's this like deep fulfillment right and it's very hard to be able to like quantify even put into words but there's a sensation of like i did that and that is something that i think there is a massive vacuous kind of sensation for a lot of people and they don't really know why they feel like there's a void but i think there's a lot of old traditions that we've just lost for sure that are inherently fulfilling yeah

we are creators right and so it feels so good yeah it is it's like staring into the campfire it's just something we've been doing for

so long but now the campfire very literally has been replaced with like the digital like my place i have like like the the youtube my most watched youtube channel is the digital campfire yeah

we have like these fire pits downstairs but it's you know a light switch kind of thing and it's like it's just not the same it's not the same actually i'm having my fire pit shipped here so i'm gonna be building some big gnarly fires the old-fashioned way chopping the wood and and the types of stories that arise when you're looking at this. And then the steaks you can cook on the fire. It's so good. Unmatched.

Yeah, so that's another thing. It's like looking up at the stars. That's something that, you know, what percentage of time do people spend actually looking at the stars anymore? Where much of our ancestry and history, we like every night yes looking up at the stars and when you're looking up because your eyes are neurological tissue they're continuous with the brain when you're looking up that stimulates things like creativity and it's energy and kind of like and wonder like open and wonder it opens you up and like oh my god that's why when someone in like neurolinguistic programming stuff the suggestion is if someone is lying they'll probably like look up either left or up to the left or up to the right there's their suggestion i don't remember left or right more but generally the looking up is the part that's that's the most relevant and if you're looking down then you're looking into information that you have like stored you know so that's like it's a kind of an interesting thing if you spend time looking up into the trees looking into the stars looking up into the clouds it actually tunes your nervous system up to be a little bit more expansive and thoughtful and creative interesting

yeah i do miss that i mean that was definitely stoked a deep sense of wonder in me as a kid looking up at the the stars in tennessee we spent a lot of time outdoors and just trying to fathom what all that was you know what do you mean those are all suns and like some of them are actually clusters of billions of suns like these you know one one dot in the night sky will actually be a galaxy and yeah that stoked tremendous wonder in me and i do feel like it's tricky to keep that alive as you age and maybe that is lack of connection with

nature well now everything is is encapsulated into information you're getting from a you know a two-dimensional screen yeah there's something really nice about the wisdom of you get of like oh no like if that snake bites me i'm gonna die yes

it puts you in a flow state yeah flow or die um okay i've kept you way too long already what i mean just as like something to maybe get towards a wrap-up here what what are some modern health pitfalls like what we've talked a lot about this up to this point like what do you think if someone is living in you know the condo downtown working in the cubicle 40 hours a week and not exactly getting their circadian rhythm dialed in and not exercising enough like what are the biggest needle movers if you have to go one by one maybe

the biggest needle movers relationships and relationships first yeah i think that's probably be the biggest one. I think you can live a pretty generally clumsy, domesticated, basic, artificially stimulated life. But if you have like rock solid relationships with people that you love and care about and feel like there's like a purpose within the tribe, I think that covers a lot.

Is it harder to have those rock solid relationships if your health is in decline they're like for sure so

you're out of shape okay

yeah

i mean 100 i'm just saying what what do i believe is like the highest relationships then i think the first one is relationships and purpose okay you know waking up and being like what is because it's like that's like the fuel that drives you to do the things the mission like who gives a crap about driving down to the you know the iv place to get a get a an nad drip yeah you know and spend six hundred dollars on whatever uh-huh if you're like i don't even like why uh-huh like what am i even doing here yeah so getting out of that like numb banal disassociated place which is depression like we started off talking about yeah i think it's like purpose and typically purpose through relationships providing value for other people and something that feels like meaningful that's

why parenthood's so powerful because it gives you a big dose of that yeah exactly yeah keep these kids alive and they are very serious relationships to have yeah

and then the next one i would say is probably just like walking like you just need to walk your body yeah so when you're sitting we mentioned i think before recording if you there was research done by southern university of southern california where they went out to i think they also went to tanzania and they studied um i believe it was hotsup people if i remember correctly and they put uh movement measurement devices on their hips and knees and ankles and such. And they measured the amount of movement that they're doing and the type of movement they're doing throughout the day. And they found that the people in these ancestral communities would rest. They'd be in resting positions about the same amount of time as people in the United States, like industrialized populations. It was 9.82 hours, if I remember right. but the difference in the way that they rested was they would rest you know change my position right now not to prove a point just because I feel good um but they would do that you know so they would be resting in a kneeling position or a squatting position or a floor sitting position you know they'd be in a 90 90 position and they'll be in a straddle position and you know so they're they're still resting they're hanging out but they're naturally taking their body through this broader arc of movement there's a book called muscles and meridians by a guy called philip beach if you want to get like really nerdy about this stuff i reference his book in in my book as well the line method and and they're the uh he refers to it as uh tuning mechanisms for the body and so most people's bodies are just cacophonous like improperly tuned bodies you know so there's a concept called tensegrity as well which i think was coined by buckminster fuller originally so tensegrity is is like those have you ever been to the you know a dentist office or doctor's office whatever and they have those expanding kind of toys where it's like you can like you you close it the whole thing shrinks up and closes and you open it the whole thing expands open i've seen that before no all right well whatever look up you look up tensegrity um and so the human body is governed by tensegrity that's like these like tensional networks of all of the connective tissue fibers back to

opponent processing right where the the arms pulling one way but it's also pushing the other way sure that's what gives you this kind of fineness of movement yeah Fine coordination of movement. Yeah, you could

say that. Yeah, and so it's all governed by these interconnected tensional networks and also pressure. Yeah. And when you are sitting in a chair, there's nothing wrong with a chair. You sit in the chair for an hour or two hours or three hours or even 10 hours. It's like you feel stiff when you get up but it's not a problem it's only when you stretch out the time horizon of the amount of time and days and months and years spent in that exact same position that's when it starts to become problematic because you're always forming yourself right so you will literally start to there's something called sarcomere genesis or sarcomere olysis where you are lengthening the connective tissue or like the actual muscle fibers or shortening them based off of exposure of what your body is doing so you can shorten or lengthen yourself into whatever physical costume you want yeah based off of your daily movement decisions if you are sitting in a chair for 10 hours a day you're closing off the main lymphatic networks in the body which is like the garbage centers or the waste management centers in the body the biggest ones are the back of the knees and the inguinal and the hip region in the stomach um up in the shoulder around the collarbone up around the neck and up around the armpit so those are all places that through evolution they were placed there in the body because they'll naturally get movement every time you just get up and take a walk and so when you get up and take a walk you take your body through this detoxifying it's detoxifying you literally are taking out the trash and every time you sit and hang out and you are binding those waste management systems, it's like you are binding. If the waste management system was analogous to your toilet or the plumbing at your house, it's like you're crimping those pipes.