#40 - The history of endurance training methods with Dr Michael Joyner
Inside Exercise
How to Reach Your VO2 Max
David Costil studied Ed Winrow, who ran two miles in 840 seconds. He entered all comer meets where he lived and would run everything from the mile to the 800m. It doesn't take much to get your VO2 max as high as it can go if you do enough fast running over a period of time.
Dr Glenn McConell chats for a second time with Professor Michael Joyner from the Mayo Clinic, Minnesota, USA. Michael blew me away with his absolutely amazing knowledge on past athletes and coaches and their endurance training methods. Very different types of training can result in similar results. His running Haiku: Run a lot of miles, some faster than your race pace, rest once in a while. Michael was first on the podcast on October 9th, 2022. Michael’s Twitter: @DrMJoyner
0:00. Introduction
2:25. Foot races in the 1700s and 1800s (running 5 min/mile!)
3:56. Pheidippides: run from Marathon to Athens etc
4:49. Tarahumara Indians from Northern Mexico
5:05. Arthur Lydiard’s (Peter Snell etc) training methods
7:45. Rudolf Harbig, Zatopek, Percy Cerutty, Herb Elliot
9:50. Bob Schul (intervals twice a day) and Ron Clarke
10:05. All roads lead to the 1964 5000m at the Tokyo Olympics
11:35. Dellinger/Bowerman: Mixed training methods like today.
13:10. Very different types of training can result in similar results
13:30. His running Haiku: Run a lot of miles, some faster than your race pace, rest once in a while
15:30. Kipchoge training very similar to Bill Rodgers and Frank Short (1970s)
16:13. Derek Clayton: high mileage at close to race pace
19:02. Several ways to reach the same VO2 max, LT and economy
21:48. Long slow distance runners raced a lot. Eg Ed Winrow
23:35. Year round training: Parvo Nurmi etc
24:20. Glenn Cunningham: intervals. Rudolf Harbig
26:01. Sweden during WWII, Zatopek interval training
27:16. In the 60s push back against intervals, LSD
29:12. Swimmers: Igloi style interval training with short recoveries
32:35. Would runners do better with a modified Igloi/Schul style program?
35:05. Michael’s impressive cycling training/ hard-easy
39:02. “Peloton art”/ “Strava art”
39:27. David Costill: reduced swimmers training volume
43:17. How high a VO2 max can the average person attain?
45:46. Arthur Lydiard/all round athletes etc
48:37. Develop as all round athletes before specialize
50:00. Overreaching/Overtraining
52:40. Takeaway messages
53:54. Outro (9 secs)
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