It's very contextual, and it depends on the individual. A part of that is actually around my a. Again, i don't want to demonize any individual nutrient,. Part of that is more about me changing my my thoughts on saturated fat and ris factors associated with that a. I used to be kind of in the camp of, ok, i think it's the h t l t l d ratio that matters more than anything. But there are some people where it's like, if you just get them eating smaller portions or they realize, hey, i can still have these foods.