There's always going to be something, there's obviously different grades of trauma. Some are way more severe than others but that ultimately everybody that nobody escapes childhood trauma free. That is not a total huge mess of trauma, but it still is traumatic for the child needs to be recognized as such. So our immune system of the brain is trained to recognize a pathogen. It's also trained torecognize a toxic experience. Each of those is an experience that is processed by a child's mind and is built into the brain.