Timothy Stanley: I think we're all deeply confused about everything, which is like 95% of what we eat. Could maybe the two of you help us to step through a little bit from stuff that isn't processed because it's like a fruit or something. And then we've had ultra processed food to early death, cancer, weight gain and a whole host of other problems. He says this is absolutely true since humans have been processing food for millions of years. But there are arguments that the food industry is starting to mount against his work.

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