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The Power of Joy
She reminded me quite a lot of Johnny Wilkinson the way she spoke when he came on the podcast yeah I thought it was fascinating Johnny came to us from of those realizations at the end of his career. She's not defined by just what she does out there on the court she's defined by the person that those experiences of shaping her to be and she can only realize that by appreciating the process and not the outcome. There'll be hundreds of tennis players out there that will never win an open that will never won a tournament so does that make them lesser people than the champions well if you focus on the process the answer to that is very clearly not thanks a lot mate thank you mate well