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#242: Phil Keoghan -- The Magic of Bucket Lists and Amazing Races

The Tim Ferriss Show

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How to Overcome Expectations in New Zealand

I think New Zealanders, they always try to underplay where they're at so that they can exceed expectations. A lot of people don't realize that it's a three-hour flight between New Zealand and Australia. One of my favorite things to observe is Kiwis and Aussies going after each other.

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