The AI moment, AI vs crypto: a heated debate with Amjad Masad, Flo Crivello, and Nathan Labenz
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The Impact on Software
"I think most of the hype today is about the art. And the thing that's under hyped is its impact on software," he says. "We're going to see a new crop of winners and entrepreneurs coming out of this phenomenon."
Amjad Masad (@Amasad), Flo Crivello (@Altimor) and Nathan Labenz (@Labenz) join us for a heated debate on the AI moment. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Preview of the debate
(00:30) Sponsor
(01:00) Nathan introducing our new upcoming AI podcast, The Cognitive Revolution
(03:45) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI
(08:20) Amjad’s take on the AI moment
(15:00) Is chatGPT a step function change?
(23:45) AI’s effect on coding
(34:40) Amjad believes AI is underhyped
(35:00) Bounties
(53:15) What AI companies should VCs invest in?
(57:30) Antonio/Flo pre-debate
(01:00:15) “All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years”
(01:01:00) Antonio’s AI skepticism
(01:05:20) the inflection point is a jump in generality
(01:06:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups?
(01:14:30) Segue into AI and crypto
(01:20:00) Flo’s crypto skepticism
(01:23:40) Antonio and Flo HEATED DEBATE
(01:26:30) Dan tries to calm everybody down
(01:27:00) Dan’s crypto perspective
(01:29:30) Antonio’s crypto perspective
(01:31:50) Amjad’s Bitcoin maximalist view
(01:34:55) Amjad’s hilarious rant on crypto ponzis
(01:38:00) Dan and Amjad debate Bitcoin/Ethereum
(01:40:00) AI vs Web 3 brawl
(01:52:32) Amjad’s AI predictions
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