"What's at stake is speed. If I have to wait to build trust with everybody that I want to influence or I want to ask to do something for me, the opportunities will have long since passed us by," he says. "We talk a lot about what does trust look like? What happens if someone violates your trust?" He adds: "And you're even allowed to disagree with me and get up into my face."

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode