Patrick Barry joins me to continue our discussion about the emerging contours of a metamodern wisdom school and the secular spirituality beginning to fill in the "missing tradition" between and beyond science and religion.
0:00 Introduction
0:34 Towards a Secular Spirituality
5:01 Awe and Mystery in Both Religion and Science
10:25 "Faith" in What Is
17:18 Being Naturally At Home in the Universe
27:08 Past Church and Academia: Forging a New Kind of Wisdom Institution
46:21 A New Story: A Self-Appreciating Cosmos
58:40 Meaning as Awe as Learning
1:04:18 Significance vs. Scale
1:09:58 Speculating on God and Telos: Finding Ourselves in the Depths of Being
1:24:23 Conclusion
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