E816: How brands show up inside AI search - what still works, what's dead, and how to play the long game without getting sucked into spammy tactics.
Malte Landwehr joins the podcast and we cover real-world experiments, why 50-posts-a-day AI content "works"…until it doesn't, and how different models (ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini, Grok) favor different sources.
We also bust myths around Schema/EEAT and LLM.txt, talk Cloudflare vs AI crawlers, and outline the 20% moves that get 80% of results.
What you'll learn: - How (and when) LLMs can be manipulated - and why it's fragile - Short-term content spam vs sustainable brand/authority building - Model biases: Reddit/YouTube/editorial sources and "fan-out" queries - Transactional SEO in an AI world (and why it still converts) - The truth about Schema, EEAT, and LLM.txt (correlation ≠ causation) - Cloudflare's AI crawler blocking and what it means for visibility - Practical brand signals that move the needle across AI and search
Guest: We're joined by Malte Landwehr, the founder of Peec AI - a tool that tracks brand visibility inside LLM answers across ChatGPT, Perplexity, Google AI Overviews, and more.
Takeaways: - Be obsessively consistent in how you describe your brand everywhere - Earn mentions on the sources your audience (and the models) already trust - Prioritize durable, transactional pages; let info content support authority - Use model "fan-out" behavior to inform content angles and titles
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00:00 Introduction to Spammy SEO Techniques 00:55 Short-Term Gains vs. Long-Term Strategies 04:34 AI Tools and Content Strategies 10:13 Understanding AI and SEO Correlations 23:32 Debunking SEO Myths 40:28 Grok and Claude Artifacts in Google Search 41:18 Key Recommendations for New Websites 43:35 Cloudflare's AI Crawler Block Controversy 45:38 The Future of SEO and AI Search 53:35 Transactional vs Informational SEO 01:13:57 Building Authority and Trust in SEO 01:16:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/
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