I like that idea of delineating between top down and bottom up approaches, and recognizing that they both have a place. I want to ask you about the first part of this, which is interoception. You did vapasna meditation. You studied that. And i don't know how much you've studied buddhism around that,. There's a concept in buddhism of the five scandas: O these five things that make up what we are as humans. Soi it's almost and for me, these these wble texs great, but i think that ultimately it's only a tool to help you to trust the feedback that’s coming from your body

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