Diana Pasulka on Religion, Atheism, Heidegger, Jung, and the Dark Night of the Soul #DisTOEsure
Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal
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This chapter examines the complex relationship between religion and philosophy, focusing on how people deal with unexplainable experiences. It also discusses the effects of technology on beliefs and addresses misconceptions about non-terrene realities in today's society.
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Professor Diana Pasulka explores the intersection of religion, atheism, Jungian psychology, and UFO phenomena, debating how belief systems shape our understanding of the unknown. The conversation delves into Heidegger's philosophy, the role of the Sangha, and the cultural impact of recent UFO hearings.
- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:03:24 - Diana's journey from atheist to agnostic
- 00:07:17 - Nuns who saw orbs and prayed
- 00:11:45 - What are beliefs?
- 00:12:27 - Atheists who believe in God
- 00:19:50 - Spiritual vs religious and secularization thesis
- 00:22:58 - UFOs as a religion
- 00:29:37 - Psychedelics and religion
- 00:37:01 - Facing flack for covering the phenomenon
- 00:39:42 - Rationality of believing in UFOs
- 00:47:38 - Atheism not like a religion but can be dogmatic
- 00:49:18 - False claim that religions tell you what to think
- 00:55:03 - The case for dogma
- 01:01:06 - Heidegger on technology
- 01:06:04 - Heidegger and Jacques Vallée
- 01:10:03 - Why many UFO researchers are Catholic
- 01:13:49 - Vatican view of UFOs
- 01:15:12 - Religious stories vs materialistic UFO interpretation
- 01:20:05 - Near death experiences, UFOs, and Dean Radin
- 01:22:35 - CIA/DOD strategies
- 01:26:57 - What Diana uncovered she shouldn't have
- 01:29:45 - Roswell and the Promethean myth
- 01:31:10 - Dangers and reality of CE5
- 01:33:48 - Bob Lazar credibility
- 01:36:02 - Protecting against disinformation
- 01:38:08 - Academic openness vs governmental closedness
- 01:42:39 - SpaceX and Latin writing
- 01:48:18 - President as a short timer
- 01:49:02 - Who is Tyler?
- 01:50:48 - Does the government understand UFOs?
- 01:52:01 - Multiple phenomena, not just one
- 01:52:51 - Biblically accurate angels
- 01:55:26 - Physical evidence of purgatory
- 01:57:36 - Collocating UFOs with religion
- 02:02:10 - Who is the modern Heidegger?
- 02:05:21 - Jung and UFOs
- 02:08:00 - Plato's Cave and shackling
- 02:12:54 - Sangha as the answer to deception
- 02:18:46 - Rediscovering meaning, Heidegger, Weinstein, TOE
- 02:22:09 - Experiential vs analytical approach to God
- 02:24:52 - Lovecraft and the open mind peril
- 02:27:14 - Epistemic shock vs ontological shock
- 02:38:10 - Importance of Sangha
- 02:41:21 - Reconciling religion with ET
- 02:42:15 - How Diana's faith was affected
- 02:44:27 - Why the Hitchhiker effect occurs
- 02:45:32 - Angels, demons, and the third option
- 02:46:45 - Rosicrucianism and Gnosticism
- 02:50:52 - Kurzweil's singularity, Omega Point, UAPs
- 02:55:14 - Jung and the UFO archetype (continued)
- 02:56:10 - UFO hearings (May 2022)
- 03:00:23 - Catholic Church, remote viewing, Thomas Campbell, Jacques Vallée
- 03:05:54 - Podcasts sanctioned behind the scenes for disclosure
SPONSORS:
- Brilliant: https://brilliant.org/TOE for 20% off
- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal
- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs
- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802
- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything
- Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch
RESOURCES:
- American Cosmic (Diana's book): https://amzn.to/3MsaOmI
- American Cosmic (Diana's book): https://amzn.to/3FWYCaW
- Fatima Trilogy (a book Diana references): https://amzn.to/3wDGoao
- Dark Night of the Soul podcast (with Chloe Valdary interviewing Curt): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfJ20TNpNU
- Karl Friston podcast (most important TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M
- Thomas Campbell on TOE: https://youtu.be/kko-hVA-8IU is part 1 and part 2 is also on the channel.
- Tupacabra Twitter: https://twitter.com/TUPACABRA2
- 00:00:00 - Introduction
- 00:03:24 - Diana's journey from atheist to agnostic
- 00:07:17 - Nuns who saw orbs and prayed
- 00:11:45 - What are beliefs?
- 00:12:27 - Atheists who believe in God
- 00:19:50 - Spiritual vs religious and secularization thesis
- 00:22:58 - UFOs as a religion
- 00:29:37 - Psychedelics and religion
- 00:37:01 - Facing flack for covering the phenomenon
- 00:39:42 - Rationality of believing in UFOs
- 00:47:38 - Atheism not like a religion but can be dogmatic
- 00:49:18 - False claim that religions tell you what to think
- 00:55:03 - The case for dogma
- 01:01:06 - Heidegger on technology
- 01:06:04 - Heidegger and Jacques Vallée
- 01:10:03 - Why many UFO researchers are Catholic
- 01:13:49 - Vatican view of UFOs
- 01:15:12 - Religious stories vs materialistic UFO interpretation
- 01:20:05 - Near death experiences, UFOs, and Dean Radin
- 01:22:35 - CIA/DOD strategies
- 01:26:57 - What Diana uncovered she shouldn't have
- 01:29:45 - Roswell and the Promethean myth
- 01:31:10 - Dangers and reality of CE5
- 01:33:48 - Bob Lazar credibility
- 01:36:02 - Protecting against disinformation
- 01:38:08 - Academic openness vs governmental closedness
- 01:42:39 - SpaceX and Latin writing
- 01:48:18 - President as a short timer
- 01:49:02 - Who is Tyler?
- 01:50:48 - Does the government understand UFOs?
- 01:52:01 - Multiple phenomena, not just one
- 01:52:51 - Biblically accurate angels
- 01:55:26 - Physical evidence of purgatory
- 01:57:36 - Collocating UFOs with religion
- 02:02:10 - Who is the modern Heidegger?
- 02:05:21 - Jung and UFOs
- 02:08:00 - Plato's Cave and shackling
- 02:12:54 - Sangha as the answer to deception
- 02:18:46 - Rediscovering meaning, Heidegger, Weinstein, TOE
- 02:22:09 - Experiential vs analytical approach to God
- 02:24:52 - Lovecraft and the open mind peril
- 02:27:14 - Epistemic shock vs ontological shock
- 02:38:10 - Importance of Sangha
- 02:41:21 - Reconciling religion with ET
- 02:42:15 - How Diana's faith was affected
- 02:44:27 - Why the Hitchhiker effect occurs
- 02:45:32 - Angels, demons, and the third option
- 02:46:45 - Rosicrucianism and Gnosticism
- 02:50:52 - Kurzweil's singularity, Omega Point, UAPs
- 02:55:14 - Jung and the UFO archetype (continued)
- 02:56:10 - UFO hearings (May 2022)
- 03:00:23 - Catholic Church, remote viewing, Thomas Campbell, Jacques Vallée
- 03:05:54 - Podcasts sanctioned behind the scenes for disclosure
SPONSORS:
- Brilliant: https://brilliant.org/TOE for 20% off
- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal
- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs
- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802
- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything
- Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch
RESOURCES:
- American Cosmic (Diana's book): https://amzn.to/3MsaOmI
- American Cosmic (Diana's book): https://amzn.to/3FWYCaW
- Fatima Trilogy (a book Diana references): https://amzn.to/3wDGoao
- Dark Night of the Soul podcast (with Chloe Valdary interviewing Curt): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfJ20TNpNU
- Karl Friston podcast (most important TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M
- Thomas Campbell on TOE: https://youtu.be/kko-hVA-8IU is part 1 and part 2 is also on the channel.
- Tupacabra Twitter: https://twitter.com/TUPACABRA2
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