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Maya Shankar: The Power Of Slight Changes (And Why We Do What We Do)

The Rich Roll Podcast

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The First Lady and the Chief of Staff of the Obama Administration

i went there so nervous, and then all of a sudden it just felt like this extremely fun, you know, kit in a candy shop talking about all these fun ideas. And did he give you the job though? Howii yes. It was very confusing. At the end he said, well, i'd love to keep in touch. What exactly does that mean? Im in hollywood. Ye. This is action weeks before obamas second term election. So i kind of asked for clare to his like, hay, so let's just unpack that for a second.

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