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Episode 239: Jenny Etnier, PhD - Cognitive Benefits Of Exercise

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Is There a Difference Between Music and Podcasts?

High intensity exercise requires enough attentional demands that it is hard to dual task while you're doing something that's at high intensity, right? If you were able to and you could pay attention, who knows, maybe you would remember it. But you've already self discovered that for you, there are certain intensities where there's no way that i can also pay attention to something that requires some thought. I may as well not even have it on, like, i'm not gin recall any of i o so, like, that's whet. Bright that's not just music. So, o yes, o its really interesting to think about how we can. implement it in so many

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And the the other thing i do more recently now that i've noticed, just kind of by default, that kind of lines up with what you were saying as well. As if i'm running low to modern tensity stuff, i'm usually listening to something when i run by myself, whether it be music or a podcast, those are usually the two things i kind of go back and forth with. And if it's low moderate, i just default to a podcast. I'd rather listen to that. I'd rather learn something as i'm kind of moving through that i'm trying to almost avoid, like a spiking a adrenelin to a degree, because i'm trying to not run very hard a so music, as may be counterproductive to some degree with that. But then once i start getting into someat like the longer intervals, the short intervals, or what weu call like a temple run, essentially intensites that range from what i could do all out for like 60 minutes, all the way down to like what i could do all out for maybe 12 minutes. So it's definitely moderate. And above a that's where like, i, if i have a pot, guess o, i'm doing it. I may as well not even have it on, like, i'm not gin recall any of i o so, like, that's whet. I default the music. I feel like that usually, like, has worked well for me at the end of one level. But it is interesting tat kind of lines up with you say, just like having to, i guess maybe the higher intense stuff is cognitive enough demanding. By adding another input at that point, you're just kind of overriding a, your operating system, so to speak. Maybe i just have a really low operating system.
Speaker 1
No, no, no, no. Nonactallyi a different pint too, when you talk about this, because now you're talking about exercise during the studying, right? So, so when i first started talking wat somthing about exercise prior to studying, if you will, prior to, you know, listening to something, or trying to remember something or learn something. What you're talking about is doing them simultaneously. And what you're describing is exactly right. So it is hard. High intensity exercise requires enough attentional demands that it is hard to dual task while you're doing something that's at high intensity, right? If you were able to and you could pay attention, who knows, maybe you would remember it. But you've already self discovered that for you, there are certain intensities where there's no way that i can also pay attention to something that requires some thought. Bright that's not just music. So, o yes, o its. It is really interesting to think about how how we can. And it makes exercise hard to study, because you can implement it in so many different ways, right? Like you said, if you get up in the morning and exercise, you feel like, yo, are pretty good all day, right? Well, what if you, i don't know if you do this act, but what if you exercise in the morning? You're good until lunch, and then you take a 30 minute break to go for a walk? Does that give you an extra boot for the afternoon? Or or did the morning enough? Right? So, exercise, i mean, it's such, is such a fascinating topic, really, to study. You kind of thing. I think some people think studying exercise were less ridiculous. We know everything we need to know about exercise, but that's so far from the truth, because it's such a complex behavior that can be implemented in so many different ways. When you've already mentioned intensity, you've mentioned interval versus continuous um, you've mentioned time of day. There's so many. We haven't even really talked about mode, because so far i think you've really been thinking about running, or talking about runing. But what about strength trining? What about yoga? What about other types of physical activity and movement? What about dance that might have different types of cognutive denices?

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