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How Long Did It Take You to Start Treading in the Right Direction?
I think firstly, it in my experience, it often requires some kind of pain or tragedy to bring us down into this. And I'd had a fairly kind of like middle class average upbringing and I hadn't experienced like great loss of great tragedy before that. And so they hadn't really been an opening, so to speak. But okay, so because it sounds from what you said there that you didn't really have the interest before this happened or or the tools perhaps to actually deal with a huge thing such as losing your mother. What was the first whiff that you got? Where did you start start? So to speak? Yeah, that's a great question.